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Which oil & air filter for 2019 Grand Touring CX-5?

Old Jul 13, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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Well there is NO research on filter that actually shows long term effect on an engine in excess of say 250-500 k miles. Toilet paper will ,can and has filtered effectively for any engine that the owner at least changes the oil at no more then say oh about 10,000 miles. All those who filters the best is really a crock of sheeeet in the real since and any engine builder worth their salt will tell you this. So you all can research all you want about how wonder full some filters ar but really how many keep your daily driver more then 10 years and over 200,000 miles? Sure a few but you are the very small percent of all the owners in the world. LOL

And reviews about oil filter..... come really are you all that naive? LOL
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 08:39 PM
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I'm not wasting my time with a TROLL !! you don't know SHT.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 11:22 PM
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I have no plans to keep any vehicle 'till 250 miles, but I do want to take care of my truck.
It's been many years since there have been outside research on how well a filter traps and holds
contaminates. And even then only the top three or four brands were tested.
Even minimal research will show that a 'blended' media will filter better than the treated paper
media in low priced and some MFG filters. And synthetic media filters better yet.
The current best filters rated at 98% at 20 um, with the Fram XG (Gold) filters doing very well
at even finer levels. I'll stick with that. Sure, the cheaper filters will likely get you to 100 thousand miles
if changed as they should, pay what you want and suit yourself.

My 2¢
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Morningstar666
I'm not wasting my time with a TROLL !! you don't know SHT.
Not sure who your are calling a troll? LOL
If you are talking about Dennis or Lobstah they both are good members and many of their responses as regular members on this forum are generally helpful and accurate.
If you are talking about me.... well than ROLMAO .

Originally Posted by Dennis Wendt
I have no plans to keep any vehicle 'till 250 miles, but I do want to take care of my truck.
It's been many years since there have been outside research on how well a filter traps and holds
contaminates. And even then only the top three or four brands were tested.
Even minimal research will show that a 'blended' media will filter better than the treated paper
media in low priced and some MFG filters. And synthetic media filters better yet.
The current best filters rated at 98% at 20 um, with the Fram XG (Gold) filters doing very well
at even finer levels. I'll stick with that. Sure, the cheaper filters will likely get you to 100 thousand miles
if changed as they should, pay what you want and suit yourself.

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ok as always you in a somewhat long way around support my responses. Those super filter (we will call them) at some point are nothing more than a way for manufactures to get you to buy their premium products.
As I said there is NO evidence that any of those filters prolongs, extends or really protect an engine any more than a good old fashion FRAM PH8a (as one of the most used oil filter in the 70s-80s) that some of are familiar with and understand my descriptive meaning.
Have rebuilt hundreds of stock and performance engine with various miles I have NEVER seen bear damage that may have been caused by using a $2-oil filter vs a 200-dollar oil filter and most defiantly no other engine part.
To my knowledge there has never been a long-term test of oil filter in the field so to say to show otherwise. Most all testing on filter is to show how small of any material they can filter down to and then HYP up the theoretical benefits.
Personally my first choice is always a FRAM oil filter but I also use many other brans as well. I am partial to FRAM because I sold them in all my shops for decades, Autolite FRAN and Bendix sponsored me when I raced professionally NHRA. And I have never had a FRAM oil filter fail on my personal engine or any of my Performance or stock engines I built in my Performance Engine Machine shop for customers of myself!! And all long block I built left the shop with a FRAM oil filter!!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 11:52 AM
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The PH 8a Ford filter brings fond memory for me too. The standard Ford filter for many years and used as the oversize
filter on Chrysler products. One zany guy even stuck one on his lawn tractor.
The orange Fram had, for a time, a bad reputation; given the slur Orange Can of Death. the quality has been
improved since and it's still a good, if basic, filter. Likely similar to some, maybe many, OEM filters.
I am a firm believer in oversize filters and I put an oversize on CX-5 once I started doing my own changes (after the free on
from the dealer).
There is an argument for high flow being as important as efficiency. The nylon cage in Champ Lab products allows high flow.
I'm at 15.000 miles on my CX, so it's broken in (first stage). I may put one of the SuperTech 20.000 mile filter on next.
My 2¢
 
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wendt
The PH 8a Ford filter brings fond memory for me too. The standard Ford filter for many years and used as the oversize
filter on Chrysler products. One zany guy even stuck one on his lawn tractor.
The orange Fram had, for a time, a bad reputation; given the slur Orange Can of Death. the quality has been
improved since and it's still a good, if basic, filter. Likely similar to some, maybe many, OEM filters.
I am a firm believer in oversize filters and I put an oversize on CX-5 once I started doing my own changes (after the free on
from the dealer).
There is an argument for high flow being as important as efficiency. The nylon cage in Champ Lab products allows high flow.
I'm at 15.000 miles on my CX, so it's broken in (first stage). I may put one of the SuperTech 20.000 mile filter on next.
My 2¢
The PH8A was used on most all adapters from Mr Gasket and Transdapt of the time period.

Also I might point out get your facts correct about FRAM orange filter. They were illegally copied and manufactured in a foreign country and sold on the US market as original FRAM filters. PLEASE DONT tart the bad information again about what happened to FRAM as well many companies during that time period. Custom inspection regulations were changed and now watch for and confiscate counterfeit products. m

I have personally test oil filters regarding flow...

Here is the thing, if it is on the engine, it will not make any difference in lubricating even at engine speeds in excess of 9000 RPM
Now I suppose flow rating would be important if you had a rear mount cooler and 6-8 feet of addition oil lines? But the effect of flow would never be a concern with engines speeds below 7000 on most all applications.
While most testing os done by way of DATA logging oil temperatures, RPM and oil pressure, you can see with oil systems as mentioned a slight drop in oil pressure, but it has never been more then 2-4 lbs. which is not of any concern if you know it is happening and expect it. And on most high-performance vehicles generally there is a oil pressure safety switch that will shut the engine of if the oil pressure drops at a preset pressure.

IMHO based on my experience another HYP added to selling oil filters on daily drivers nothing more.
 
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