2025 MAZDA CX5 DiFFERENT ?
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Those really do not work in the real world and are formula based for none tested results. It was always assumed that using a manual over a automatic or a carbureted over, fuel injected or fast forward to present day N/A vs Turbo charged has specic rules for the related HOP and adjusted HP. Those rules are so bad and inaccurate by the % of inaccuracy that I am surprised anyone still uses them? But estimating using formulas pencil and paper helps establish goals or estimates.
I engine Dyon'd the MINI engine during the development of the engine upgrade I offered, and it still did not come close to the manufactures (Chrysler) power rating. My guess was because MINI used a Chrysler engine that the power was sourced from some chosen production year of that engine and then estimated the power increase with the Supercharger. i did not really go that far into the explanation because like Mazda and for this debate it really does not matter. 95% of owners will go by what they think the auto manufacture posted engine specification are absolute. I can't change the minds of anyone that has not actually had their vehicle or a single engine actually DYNO to upgrade their though theories and beliefs.
My best advice and recommendation if for anything else for fun or for those that have real curiosity about the power their ride actual produces are to get an accelerometer and do a couple of their test to see real world results righty their reading there display.
I prefer and have successfully used and compared real world results to chassis DYNO results an Autometer D-pic.
This instruction guide is more informational than any ads or you-tube user.
2650-1132.pdf
You may notice in the many pictures of some of my vehicles presently owned and past owned that this gauge is in most all of them for slightly over 20+ years .
I engine Dyon'd the MINI engine during the development of the engine upgrade I offered, and it still did not come close to the manufactures (Chrysler) power rating. My guess was because MINI used a Chrysler engine that the power was sourced from some chosen production year of that engine and then estimated the power increase with the Supercharger. i did not really go that far into the explanation because like Mazda and for this debate it really does not matter. 95% of owners will go by what they think the auto manufacture posted engine specification are absolute. I can't change the minds of anyone that has not actually had their vehicle or a single engine actually DYNO to upgrade their though theories and beliefs.
My best advice and recommendation if for anything else for fun or for those that have real curiosity about the power their ride actual produces are to get an accelerometer and do a couple of their test to see real world results righty their reading there display.
I prefer and have successfully used and compared real world results to chassis DYNO results an Autometer D-pic.
This instruction guide is more informational than any ads or you-tube user.
2650-1132.pdf
You may notice in the many pictures of some of my vehicles presently owned and past owned that this gauge is in most all of them for slightly over 20+ years .
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Those really do not work in the real world and are formula based for none tested results. It was always assumed that using a manual over a automatic or a carbureted over, fuel injected or fast forward to present day N/A vs Turbo charged has specic rules for the related HOP and adjusted HP. Those rules are so bad and inaccurate by the % of inaccuracy that I am surprised anyone still uses them? But estimating using formulas pencil and paper helps establish goals or estimates.
I engine Dyon'd the MINI engine during the development of the engine upgrade I offered, and it still did not come close to the manufactures (Chrysler) power rating. My guess was because MINI used a Chrysler engine that the power was sourced from some chosen production year of that engine and then estimated the power increase with the Supercharger. i did not really go that far into the explanation because like Mazda and for this debate it really does not matter. 95% of owners will go by what they think the auto manufacture posted engine specification are absolute. I can't change the minds of anyone that has not actually had their vehicle or a single engine actually DYNO to upgrade their though theories and beliefs.
My best advice and recommendation if for anything else for fun or for those that have real curiosity about the power their ride actual produces are to get an accelerometer and do a couple of their test to see real world results righty their reading there display.
I prefer and have successfully used and compared real world results to chassis DYNO results an Autometer D-pic.
This instruction guide is more informational than any ads or you-tube user.
2650-1132.pdf
You may notice in the many pictures of some of my vehicles presently owned and past owned that this gauge is in most all of them for slightly over 20+ years .
I engine Dyon'd the MINI engine during the development of the engine upgrade I offered, and it still did not come close to the manufactures (Chrysler) power rating. My guess was because MINI used a Chrysler engine that the power was sourced from some chosen production year of that engine and then estimated the power increase with the Supercharger. i did not really go that far into the explanation because like Mazda and for this debate it really does not matter. 95% of owners will go by what they think the auto manufacture posted engine specification are absolute. I can't change the minds of anyone that has not actually had their vehicle or a single engine actually DYNO to upgrade their though theories and beliefs.
My best advice and recommendation if for anything else for fun or for those that have real curiosity about the power their ride actual produces are to get an accelerometer and do a couple of their test to see real world results righty their reading there display.
I prefer and have successfully used and compared real world results to chassis DYNO results an Autometer D-pic.
This instruction guide is more informational than any ads or you-tube user.
2650-1132.pdf
You may notice in the many pictures of some of my vehicles presently owned and past owned that this gauge is in most all of them for slightly over 20+ years .
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Direct from Mazda's own website:
2026 Mazda CX-5comes standard with 2.5L I4 (187 hp) and an optional 2.5L turbocharged engine (256 hp).
There is zero difference in the 2.5L NA engine other than tweaks for better emission controls and fuel economy.
You cannot factually prove any measured HP difference without multiple professional Dyno runs on the different model years or "partial years" as claimed.
"Seat of your pants feeling" is based entirely on one's imagination or lack-thereof.
My prank playing son stuck a supercharged emblem under my CX-5 logo...I swear I automatically got a 50hp boost
2026 Mazda CX-5comes standard with 2.5L I4 (187 hp) and an optional 2.5L turbocharged engine (256 hp).
There is zero difference in the 2.5L NA engine other than tweaks for better emission controls and fuel economy.
You cannot factually prove any measured HP difference without multiple professional Dyno runs on the different model years or "partial years" as claimed.
"Seat of your pants feeling" is based entirely on one's imagination or lack-thereof.
My prank playing son stuck a supercharged emblem under my CX-5 logo...I swear I automatically got a 50hp boost
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Oh and it is MINI not Mini and there is a BIG difference.
Last edited by Callisto; Feb 19, 2025 at 04:12 PM.
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All the fluff goes back to post history. Same user going from 2022 to 2023 with the same engine and transmission said the 23 was so much faster and made the 22 like a dump truck. Same goofy claim made suggesting "hidden" engine changes to the 25. Zero evidence, zero documentation, nothing from Mazda. Just total fluff trying to justify losing your shirt on two year leases like the poors.
Last edited by retread888; Feb 19, 2025 at 07:46 PM.
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Yup it is only your opinion and not really supported by documentation released in a fact based manor from Mazda . I could add “yet” but it’s not likely at least some of your opinion will not be published. Mazda does not release the actual ECU mapping so any speculation is just that. Naturally there are ways from some like myself that with a full access’s program could compare and actually see what changes were made, but to what end?
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I never said it was a 1.6 at least when I was done with it.
As for the other it was always a “thing” for over a decade with MINI owners. In fact it is an interesting story between BMW and England about that whole thing. Goes back to WWII
As for the other it was always a “thing” for over a decade with MINI owners. In fact it is an interesting story between BMW and England about that whole thing. Goes back to WWII
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Look - I made no definitive assertions on the specs changing - but the chassis - transmission and engine all are improved - Im seeing pics of the 2026 which has big changes to the body - ( which if acurate i dont like ) so it would seem the improved the drivetrain with some tweaks to go with the new body - BTW- if you like they CX5 - get a 25 - i think they hacked up a beautiful vehicle on the 26 - my opinion only - b