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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 01:48 AM
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Question Hi Beam and aftermaket driving lights

Hi All,
(2007 Mazda 6 Diesel Hatch)
I'm having an interesting time attempting to wire in a set of aftermarket driving lights and could use some help.
To summarize, for the kit, I need to find a wire that is hot only when the high beams are on. This will be used to fire a relay that runs the driving lights.
My problem is that the high beams on this car are switched on the earth side. From the high beam bulbs perspective, +12V is supplied always to the hot wire. The ground wire switches between +12V and earth when you switch from LO to HI beam. At low beam, the +12V in the ground wire equalises the voltage drop over the bulb so that it stays off.
So... what to do?
If I tap the earth wire, I get the inverse of what I want. A live wire on low beams and an earthed one on high beams.
If I tap the hot wire, the lights will be on regardless of high or low beam selection.
Thoughts?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 02:34 AM
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Use the negative feed from the highbeam to pin #85 and have Pin#86 & Pin#30 as12v+ feed from the battery. Pin#87 is your output to the driving lights.

Basically you use pin# 85 & 86 as the triggers/switch, which needs a positive & negative feed, doesn't matter where it comes from.


Conventional Relay setup
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 02:35 AM
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I realize that one potential solution is to use a relay. Wire the coil in parallel with the high beam light. Relay is closed whenever the light is on.
Question is: should I use a resistor in series with the relay coil? If so, can you recommend values and wattage?
I have a few leftover resistors from wiring in LEDs (120 ohm 25W I think). I really don't want the current to pick the easy way through the relay rather then the bulb.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 02:37 AM
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No need for a resistor
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by grim_reaper
Use the negative feed from the highbeam to pin #85 and have Pin#86 & Pin#30 as12v+ feed from the battery. Pin#87 is your output to the driving lights.

Basically you use pin# 85 & 86 as the triggers/switch, which needs a positive & negative feed, doesn't matter where it comes from.


Conventional Relay setup
Almost exactly what I had in mind, just not sure whether to wire in series with existing hi beam or in parallel.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 02:40 AM
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Just tap into the high beam wiring at the plug.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by grim_reaper
Just tap into the high beam wiring at the plug.
Parallel it is then.
Thanks for the input, I'll get started after Supercheap opens tomorrow.
I'll update when I get it working.
 
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