Thanks!

 

The CPO 2023 PP I bought last month came with 19" Toyo's on it. I've driven the car about 1200 miles since I got it., mostly highway, and I have to agree with you, they are terrible. The only area that they seem ok is road noise. But I also attribute some of that to how well the vehicle is insulated. The wet traction is down right scary. The wear is also horrible. They look like they've only got another 5k miles left in them. I live in NJ, and frequently travel to about as far west in Maryland as you can get, which is pretty hilly, and ~2500 ft above sea level. NJ winters can be brutal, and where I go in Maryland has lots of snow, so something with good 4 season performance is important, as is tread wear.

I'm also going to ditch the 19" wheels in favor of 17", for a better ride quality. I don't know what it is about Mazda and their ability to pick the worst OEM tires, but the Toyo's are almost as bad as the Dunlop SP5000's that came on my 2017 3-GT

I know everyone loves the Michelin CC2, but I think they are going to be too noisy on the highway. I'm looking at the Pirelli Scorpian WeatherActive, which has a snowflake and a 60k mile treadwear warranty (600 A A). After that, it's a toss up between the Scorpion A/S 3 and the Continental CrossContact LX25. With the current Pirelli instant rebate, they're essentially the same price. The specs are also almost identical, and both have a 70k treadwear warranty. They're about $100 cheaper than the WeatherActive, for the set of 4. I'll most likely wait towards the end of the month, to see if Continental offers any incentive on their tires.

 

I'm in Calgary too. My original Toyos are due for replacement this summer and after a bit of research, here are my contenders so far:

Nokian One
Continental ContiCross Contact LX25
Continental TrueContact Tour
Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3

I'm really curious about the Pirelli.

 

The Pirelli's are holding up well for me.
I have the 19" wheels and am an aggressive driver, as in I prefer twisty roads whenever possible.
Tread wear is great so-far, I do rotate every oil change.

Both Continental models worked good for me on other vehicles (Honda CRV/Hyundai Santa Fe) I owned but I was not happy with the tread life.
While they did prorate and replace them it was a PITA. Both cupped on the inside even with my alignment within spec.

I have no experience with Nokian.

 

In the Santa Cruz mountains, I could wear down the sides and often create "snot *****" and create heat bluing of the tread. So much so that on a hard weekend ride of maybe 100 miles or less I would need to change the tire. I had a few friend that always liked and didn't mind using my take offs on their bike. But then they were not knee dragger either. lol
RG500, GSXR750 VFR500 2 name a few...

Tires are like a smorgasbord restaurant there are so many to tasty treats choose from yet very few get to sample all of them. So, as I also way say the experience level is so limited. Now for those that have worked in a tire and wheel shop and got to try many brands and types with in those brands when you read recommendation on any given forum it's never the same from one person vehicle to the other even if they are the same year and this is because wear and service life factor and operating environment
Doing a little research what trends the better tires and it seems to be the *tire company that advertises the most and has the best appealing commercials.

13 Effective Tire Marketing Strategies for 2025 - Podium

 

I hear yah
I used to put about 25K to 30K per year on here in Maine's 8–9-month riding season.
I used the Pirelli Diablos on my Ducati's and they were indeed knee draggers.
Unless I did track days, I could only manage to get 3000 miles on them which meant a $500 minimum tire change per year sometimes two.
But that was because I put most of my miles on my sport touring motorcycle(s) and the Continental Conti or Michelin Pilots and they only required a yearly change.
To me the Perilli Scorpion, or any SUV performance tire, are considered bargain prices especially at the mileage they get

 

Thanks!