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Old Apr 14, 2023 | 10:24 AM
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Hallo everyone
I've replaced 3 batteries in my Mazda 2 2011 1.3 in past 2 years thinking it was the cheapest battery in country.
BUT now I've purchased meeter and it shows in cigarette lighter 12V when engine on and EVERYTHING OFF - but when I turn fan on level 3 or 4 (full on) it "triggers" about 14V.
setting fan on level 1 or 2 gives just 12V.

Is that indication alternator is dying or terrible quality battery?

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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 03:51 AM
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If you are checking the alternator output under load then 14v to 14.5 v would be ok. If your battery or battery’s in your case keep failing then you need to check for a parasitic drain on the system.
if I have read your post correctly buying three batteries in three years surely they would have still been in warranty ?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastbysuzuki
If you are checking the alternator output under load then 14v to 14.5 v would be ok. If your battery or battery’s in your case keep failing then you need to check for a parasitic drain on the system.
if I have read your post correctly buying three batteries in three years surely they would have still been in warranty ?
Hallo there - thank you for reply.
Yes - battery was under warranty - the reason I said "I've replace them" not purchased 3 of them - ALL of them died - sometimes charge is under 12V like 11.5V (when NOTHING is turned on apart of engine) and then I think - that is the reason battery dying (staying at about 11.5V for year is not good?) but why under just Level 3 fan kick in charge to 14.0 or even 14.3V?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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Just to be clear are you saying that the charging rate only goes up when you select level 3 on the fan setting?
what charging rate do you get when the headlights are on and the fan off? You should get around 14v - 14.5 volts with the engine rpm of around 1500 rpm?
I am not an auto electrician but a charging rate as low as you have looks like there could be a fault with the regulator part of the alternator I would be looking for somewhere to have it tested.
Are your battery connections clean and tight
 
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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 10:19 AM
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1. Battery posts are 100% clean
2. I get 14+ Volts when Road Lights are on too - but 11.5 to 12V when something taking less energy like Parking Light Fan Level 1 or 2 - or Radio on
3. I've reminded myself I've purchased 40Ah ; Cold Cracking Amp (CCA): 340CCA --------- shop advise to purchase 60Ah 480CCA - but I do not use music while engine off - nor lights while engine off
Could this smaller battery be a problem Mazda car charges it only under high load (like Road Lights or Fan level 3 or 4?)

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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 11:08 AM
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I think you are buying a under powered battery and will likely to suffer failures as you have before, you should have taken the shops advice buying under powered battery’s to save money is false economy.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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Seems your alternator isn't getting excited without a load. Maybe the internal voltage regulator is failing?

Here's idle, no load (well 11A): 14.62v at alternator, 14.2v at ecu.





 

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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 03:50 PM
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How to test internal voltage regulator if failing?
What I've noticed is when under load I have over 14V and.......... drive I have over 14V BUT......... I when I slow down to 5MPH or stop - charging Voltage drops to about 11.8-12V for about 1 second and back to 14V again it can be even heard in slowing down fan speed - and this happening all the time - something like ECU knows I slow down/stopped and change charge level? Is it internal voltage regulator thing?




Originally Posted by ziddey
Seems your alternator isn't getting excited without a load. Maybe the internal voltage regulator is failing?

Here's idle, no load (well 11A): 14.62v at alternator, 14.2v at ecu.


 
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