New to car batteries.
New to Mazda (including this forum).
Interested in CX-90 PHEV Premium.

According to 'Google', most PHEV batteries (17.8kWh) cost $2-8k and the price has come down from $400/kWh in 2012 to $111/kWh in 2024.
17.8kWh x $111/kWh = ~ $2k (OK).
The CX-90 PHEV battery is covered for 8 years or 100k miles and expected to last 15 years or 150k miles.
Of course, the cost of batteries will continue to come down and inflation will continue to go up (don't get me started on politics).
Anyways, I would have no problem paying $2k for a battery in 10-15 years.
However, the dealer asked the service what a replacement CX-90 PHEV battery costs now and was told $22k (crazy).
According to Google, that's correct but you can get it places for $15k.
I doubt that the CX-90 PHEV will be worth $15k in 10-15 years.
Thoughts on what the actual cost of a CX-90 PHEV battery will cost in 10-15 years?

Thanks
Scott

 

Welcoam to the forum

Gogal is really not your friend.

Contact battery manufactures direct get a least of their biggest retailers and go shopping!
Not sure where you get the idea of battery cost going down or for that matter going up?
If you actually do some research and see the materials used and who is actually trying to manufacture better batteries, I can't see how you concluded they would start top go down?

Lastly don't place your hopes and dreams on a battery that will be efficient after Dailey driven for more than 6-year tops. While they technically may still be i the specification for what the manufacture will show as a good battery there actual support as a battery will decline. Now this goes back you better batteries will become more alliable in the future but then perhaps so will their price tag.

Gogal is not your friend for this kind of information, and you really must go on a fact-finding mission and follow the bottom of the Gogal search site who what and where posted them.


My responses include all vehicle types, electric , Hybrid and other that use the good old standard car battery.

 

Your response was zero help and rude.
Let me return the favor...
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I've been an engineer for over 20 years so I think that I know how to research and it includes Google but sifting thru the BS.
If you haven't heard that the price of batteries has been going down then you're living in a hole.
Anyone else?

 

Look Northern Maryland child
First sorry I dent meet your expectation of what you personally think every one is suppose to respond like. I don't think in anyway I was being rude only said what was on my mind. If you are so thin skinned then what can I say. Vehicle forums in general don't have a set rules of Etiquette and actually the way most respond is more to the point with less BS in other words straight to the point.
Nothing I said cant be at least verified if not found to be more real world fact then what you posted? Which thus far IMHO is nothing but your opinion? LOL
Well as one engineer to another you are living in a hole (Vacuum) and obviously are not in the automotive industry, follow the market and also the world wide events.
Please think before responding again to me if you don't want me to interact on your thread anymore.
If you don't then...............
So have a good time with your thread!

 

The cost of batteries ($ / kWh) has been and will continue to go down.
Feel free to share a link stating otherwise.

Northern Maryland child?
Ouch (especially from a Northern Californian)! 🤦‍♂️

 

LOL ya I know but I am stuck here now for a while.... like most I have a 30 year at 2.5% ...so that said not willing to up route and go backwards.
The great thing is I am at the bottom of the Sierra mountains so if you look I have virtually every environment the rest of the US has in a days drive or less from me.
I look into who I am talking to on a forum. Unfortunately, you are 2 new but you defiantly are not so thinned skinned as I thought, and a sense of humor.!

As for link I think if you extend to periodicals in manufacturing specifically Batteries you may find some interest things? A lot will obviously be settled or determined in the next 4 years or less?
Other wise either you are a great speculator or the same as me, that is having our own information bank. Mine is more or less in the Aviation industry and what they are seeing for batteries as the hints of things to come in such auto periodicals as Counterman. But I do follow who wrote them and where the information is from. You should know following the crumb trail of things posted on the internet (Goooogal) is time consuming and often leads to a dead end. Empirical facts are even harder verified regarding some subject material.

I would also take a peak at, rising costs of essential battery materials like cobalt, nickel, and lithium, and lead (not recycled lead from older failed batteries) . Then the restriction being placed on Enviromental impact for waste or recycling them. Then the less known is the cost to hire new electrical and mechanical engineers and may computer designers to build newer longer lasting and more reliable batteries. Possibly even new battery manufacture plants other than in some currently being manufacture in less popular countries for the USA.

 

Lol.
I appreciate it.
I think that I'm just used to being treated with respect because of work in add'n to not being on social media for 4 years now (just not worth the time or energy).
Anyways, you've got some good ideas but I just don't have the time to look into those things (work 10 hours / day, 2 babies, never-ending to-do lists, etc.)
So was just hoping someone on here was aware that Mazda's CX-90 PHEV battery is much more than others ($22k vs $4k) and would chime in with ~ this is common when car makers start to field new batteries but the price almost always comes down to average prior to their warranty expiring (or something to that affect).
I'm almost hoping it can't retain it's warranted 70% prior to 8 years / 100k miles so I get a free replacement or repair.
And of course, the car can be driver without the PHEV battery or I can find one at junk yard.
So if others are aware please chime in.
Happy Turkey Day 🦃