Unused Fuel Capacity
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Have you experienced an issue of running out of fuel in any of your vehicles whose fuel gauge read 1/4 tank or more?
Keeping the tank at 1/4 or more can easily be done, you have just chosen not to do it because of your perceived cost benefits of not doing so.
The average price of gas in the US is currently $3.45 a gallon.
The best discount most fuel cards offer is .10 cents per gallon (perhaps you have a better deal).
At .10 cents per gallon your maximum savings would be between $1.25 - $2.50 per fill-up which really isn't a huge savings.
Unless of course your driving requirements mean filling up a couple times a week.
As for discount cards I personally use a cash back credit that covers ALL purchases, even fuel.
Though I've found in my experience (personal and otherwise) if someone has three road ready non-business vehicles, discounted fuel costs are not really a priority.
I can honestly say the few years I had 4 motorcycles (sport tourer, off road, two track bikes), boat, pick-up, wife's SUV, a corvette and a BMW Z3, the fuel costs for them were the least of my concerns
Keeping the tank at 1/4 or more can easily be done, you have just chosen not to do it because of your perceived cost benefits of not doing so.
The average price of gas in the US is currently $3.45 a gallon.
The best discount most fuel cards offer is .10 cents per gallon (perhaps you have a better deal).
At .10 cents per gallon your maximum savings would be between $1.25 - $2.50 per fill-up which really isn't a huge savings.
Unless of course your driving requirements mean filling up a couple times a week.
As for discount cards I personally use a cash back credit that covers ALL purchases, even fuel.
Though I've found in my experience (personal and otherwise) if someone has three road ready non-business vehicles, discounted fuel costs are not really a priority.
I can honestly say the few years I had 4 motorcycles (sport tourer, off road, two track bikes), boat, pick-up, wife's SUV, a corvette and a BMW Z3, the fuel costs for them were the least of my concerns
Regarding your first question, I had a 1972 Dodge Dart with the 318 V8 that would stop running as soon as the gauge went just a bit below 1/4 tank. Had to keep an eye on that one. It only hit empty when the ignition was off.
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and it was an easy fix. Your simple bend the fuel float arms a bit. Problem solved. 
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Anecdotally, I've run the fuel low/out on every vehicle I've ever owned (often multiple times). Never have I driven a vehicle that would "run out" prior to the low fuel warning light coming on, or displaying 0 miles of range, or not accessing a substantial portion of the fuel that remains in the tank. If the Mazda is the only vehicle that cannot reliably access the full tank of fuel, that is what is known as a problem.
Your opinion is not the same as logic, and not repairing a malfunction is, by definition, not a fix. I don't expect to be able to restate your misunderstanding of what logic is, or repairing a malfunction, but I post this for the benefit of others that might grasp those concepts.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
Your opinion is not the same as logic, and not repairing a malfunction is, by definition, not a fix. I don't expect to be able to restate your misunderstanding of what logic is, or repairing a malfunction, but I post this for the benefit of others that might grasp those concepts.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
Last edited by redpoint5; Sep 17, 2024 at 02:15 PM.
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Your opinion is not the same as logic, and not repairing a malfunction is, by definition, not a fix. I don't expect to be able to restate your misunderstanding of what logic is, or repairing a malfunction, but I post this for the benefit of others that might grasp those concepts.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
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Indeed, I did have the AWD model. If there is consensus that people experiencing the issue have the AWD version, then it strongly supports your hypothesis. The fact that violent steering sometimes allowed me to continue on also supports your hypothesis.
Last edited by redpoint5; Sep 17, 2024 at 02:17 PM.
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Your opinion is not the same as logic, and not repairing a malfunction is, by definition, not a fix. I don't expect to be able to restate your misunderstanding of what logic is, or repairing a malfunction, but I post this for the benefit of others that might grasp those concepts.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
If I were on a gun forum and had a problem where the firearm failed to load the last 2 bullets in the magazine, your "fix" would be "I never let the magazine get below 3 bullets".
If I had an issue where my tires were blowing out before wearing down to the wear bar, your "fix" would be "I replace my tires when 25% useful tread remains".
If my fridge wasn't quite holding temperature like it should and food was spoiling sooner, your "fix" would be "I eat the food faster".
You've provided nothing useful in the thread but have managed to get a handful of other rubes to agree that working around something that isn't functioning correctly is not only a "fix", but the best fix.
LOLThe second one shows your lack of understanding about tires. LOL
Not even sure about your last line? but I was still laughing about your responses in general! You did catch one members that aligns with you, but that is no surprise.
lol
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Post what they said and if they had a service tell me at least the name of the dealership I can get a copy of the service order. Naturally personal information redacted.
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Argument by analogy is usually a bad idea, but I had fun thinking of absurdities.