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You both need to just go find a straight stretch of road get up to 60MPH and do a hard stop. Then come back and post about the experience!
The brake system was engineered, designed specifically so that they not only should last longer but have a more appealing brake feel for the average driver day to day driving.
You know I've already done the hard stop...more than once and rung the neck of 2.5L NA in twisties.
The brakes do work great for an everyday driver vehicle, but I'm not a typical everyday "driver".
Professional testing in the same conditions and tires shows my 2020 Mazda CX-5 70-0 average stopping distance is 167ft, which is an average of 17 feet greater than comparable size/weight/equipped vehicles.
The Kia Sportage is worse but by only 3 feet.
The braking performance and stopping ability would be greatly improved with some Brembo calipers as the heavier Porsche Macan 128 ft stopping distance shows.
But it would be cheaper to trade my CX-5 in on 2020 Porsche Macan that put 6 pot Brembo calipers on it
I've learned to live with brakes and only recently needed new rotors and pads at 40K.
Brakes their service life and performance is directly related to the driver.
No one can argue this point if you competitively race and especially if you have at least taken one performance driving school weekend school.
I can't debate or argue with anyone that has not. You do not have the experience level.
But I can say that the braking performance which is measured in stopping distance is Federally required to be published by all auto manufactures selling new vehcle in the USA. So if you want to compare platforms and models look the braking specification and the wight tested. If you don't then post how, you feel is not re4ally sound information> Unless you tested the comparing vehicles same day and road condition with an accurate measuring meter.
obviously and both vehicles were/are owned/driven by me...i was making a simple observation of 2 vehicles without accounting for every single possible variable that could have an effect on braking distance...not trying to get into the weeds, just a simple observation that i have to brake earlier in this car than in my previous car...that is all
Originally Posted by Alexmed2002
The turbo models have dual piston brakes versus the single piston brakes on the non-turbo. I can feel a difference in both of them, but once I drive the non-turbo enough I get used to it again.
i'm getting used to it but it does catch me sometimes having to depress the brake harder than i have had to with my previous car
obviously and both vehicles were/are owned/driven by me..
I always like when members and owners of vehicles support or make the points I try to make. Thats is exactly why you really don't understand about brakes in vehicles.
If you want improved barking on your Mazda to tailor to your expectation, then shop for a BBK for the front. You will get all the braking you would ever want! Or stop complaining. Oh and look into at least taking a fun weekend performance driving school it will do wonders to improve you driving and braking skills.
I always like when members and owners of vehicles support or make the points I try to make. Thats is exactly why you really don't understand about brakes in vehicles.
If you want improved barking on your Mazda to tailor to your expectation, then shop for a BBK for the front. You will get all the braking you would ever want! Or stop complaining. Oh and look into at least taking a fun weekend performance driving school it will do wonders to improve you driving and braking skills.
as i said, it's a simple observation...i don't recall stating that i wanted to improve the braking or was asking for advice to do so...but i did state that i wasn't going to do anything other than continue to adjust my driving to accommodate, so you may want to brush up on those reading comprehension skills a little
as i said, it's a simple observation...i don't recall stating that i wanted to improve the braking or was asking for advice to do so...but i did state that i wasn't going to do anything other than continue to adjust my driving to accommodate, so you may want to brush up on those reading comprehension skills a little
Most of what you posted is inaccurate from a technical standpoint. As well you forget that this is an open forum and those reading it may want to expand upon information so reading comprehension would fall on your part not mine. The fact that your impression is based on so many unaccounted for and inaccurate comparing information is typical of a average owner of any vehicle. That said.
For anyone that would like to improve the brake "feel" on most any platform.
The first thing is to replace the brake pads no matter what the current thickness is with them.. The best stopping power that will reduce your 0-60mph distance are semi metalic and full metalic pads. The downfall is they do make noise, and they will wear 45% faster then other type of pad material.
Braided stainless steel brake lines all four calipers.
AMSOIL or RED LINE performance brake fluid to replace the complete brake system including ABS
Most of what you posted is inaccurate from a technical standpoint. As well you forget that this is an open forum and those reading it may want to expand upon information so reading comprehension would fall on your part not mine. The fact that your impression is based on so many unaccounted for and inaccurate comparing information is typical of a average owner of any vehicle. That said.
well i think it's pretty obvious to everyone that it's not an apples to apples comparison from a technical standpoint seeing that they are 2 totally different vehicles and there are other variables not accounted for...as i stated (a few times now) it's a simple observation that requires me to remember to adjust my driving to accommodate the longer braking distance in the cx-5 vs my previous vehicle...considering you quoted me and your comments were directed at me, it seems my reading comprehension is just fine and you just wanted to offer me unsolicited advice since i didn't see anyone ask about improving braking distance...but yea i agree that if anyone else wants to stop in a shorter distance they should buy better brake components...carry on
For anyone that would like to improve the brake "feel" on most any platform.
The first thing is to replace the brake pads no matter what the current thickness is with them.. The best stopping power that will reduce your 0-60mph distance are semi metalic and full metalic pads. The downfall is they do make noise, and they will wear 45% faster then other type of pad material.
Braided stainless steel brake lines all four calipers.
AMSOIL or RED LINE performance brake fluid to replace the complete brake system including ABS
