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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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I can see teh wear mark through the oil fill port, there's one cam lobe directly at the port.
the wear mark is at the tip of the cam lobe. The manual resommends 5w-20, but accepts 5w-30. so I'd like to switch 5w-30 for better wear protection.......gas mileage be damed. will try castrol syntec 5w-30.
Keep in mind that the only grade of Castrol Syntec that is truly "synthetic" is 0W-30 (and it is also the only one made in Germany), every other grade is simply hydrocracked Group III wannabe synthetic oil. FWIW, a 0W-30 would most be better in our cars compared to a 5W-30, regardless of what the base oil is.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shipo
Keep in mind that the only grade of Castrol Syntec that is truly "synthetic" is 0W-30 (and it is also the only one made in Germany), every other grade is simply hydrocracked Group III wannabe synthetic oil. FWIW, a 0W-30 would most be better in our cars compared to a 5W-30, regardless of what the base oil is.
The German Castrol 0w-30 is on the thicker side, and is harder to come by. seen it at autozone once, but it's gone now. what about Valvoline Synpower, is it also Grp III?
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wineye
The German Castrol 0w-30 is on the thicker side, and is harder to come by. seen it at autozone once, but it's gone now. what about Valvoline Synpower, is it also Grp III?
Hmmm, whenever I want 0W-30 I just call my local AutoZone a couple of days in advance and they always make sure they have a case on hand for me.

Regarding the 0W-30 being thicker, maybe it's just me, but I see that as a good thing. FWIW, I'm running Mobil 1 0W-30 (not quite as thick as Castrol 0W-30) in my 2009 Mazda3 i, and so far at least, my fuel economy is pretty much bang on where it was with the factory oil.

Regarding the Valvoline SynPower, yes, as I understand it, it's also a Group III based oil.
 

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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Shipo, how long have you been using M1 0w-30? It's ACEA A1 certified, not A5 though.
On the German Castrol 0w-30, have you tried it in your Mazda3i? I see the wear mark at the nose of the cam lobe (only at the nose, other part of the lobe surface is good). The reason I worried about the viscosity is pumpability, and thicker oil also adds burden to the oil pump.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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I'm not at all sure why you're worried about pumpability. Considering the following points:
  1. The 2.0 liter engine in my Mazda is supposedly the same as used in the Ford Focus.
  2. Both Mazda and Ford recommend 5W-20 for those engines in the U.S. and Canada.
  3. Mazda and Ford also sell their 2.0 liter engines in Europe, and those engines are mechanically identical to the ones sold on this side of the pond.
  4. In Europe, both Mazda and Ford recommend 5W-30 for their engines.
Given the above points, I'm not the least bit worried about using an oil that has a higher viscosity at 100°C compared to the watery 5W-20 that Mazda and Ford recommend over here.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shipo
I'm not at all sure why you're worried about pumpability. Considering the following points:
  1. The 2.0 liter engine in my Mazda is supposedly the same as used in the Ford Focus.
  2. Both Mazda and Ford recommend 5W-20 for those engines in the U.S. and Canada.
  3. Mazda and Ford also sell their 2.0 liter engines in Europe, and those engines are mechanically identical to the ones sold on this side of the pond.
  4. In Europe, both Mazda and Ford recommend 5W-30 for their engines.
Given the above points, I'm not the least bit worried about using an oil that has a higher viscosity at 100°C compared to the watery 5W-20 that Mazda and Ford recommend over here.

The US cars need to pass CARB Specs and I would imagine the Canadian cars using it makes it easier on Mazda at the other end.
 
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