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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 07:42 AM
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This "water mist injection" project has really piqued my interest - looking forward to more !
 
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Old Jun 29, 2021 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cuzed2
This "water mist injection" project has really piqued my interest - looking forward to more !
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So as of today I am still waiting on a couple parts I still need to complete and start this project working.
Some 3/8 hose and a mini funnel.

I may decide if this project works well I I think in my "mind" will work to change the hardware with some "RACE" look AN fitting? But that would up the final cost of the project which at first was about 3o dollars then upgrading and replacing some parts that would work better I will have about 70 dollars invested. Theoretically I should gain that in saved fuel in about 5 months sooner if we go up to Oregon and back for a mini vacation?

Here is the control valve. I am not sure if I will leave the zip tie for securing iT? It would more then suffice but I am not sold on the idea yet? I may make an actual bracket for it later?
Also the "brass" sticks out like a sore thumb. That's easy and remedy and working on that as I am posting this update.




The main bottle is finished and ready to mount I choose to use a longer internal aluminum tube that I can adjust the air stone height if needed.






The intake tube/funnel is also adjustable up to 7/8 inch





 
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Old Jun 30, 2021 | 01:08 PM
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I was recently on another thread accused by a member of "overthinking" ? I suppose that would be correct.
So moving alone in my latest project I keep adding things I did not original consider. I call them theoretical upgrades. I do do use the long considered valuable old school 5 step scientific method. I know now there is a 6 and 7 but the original 5 seems to always work for me?

OK so the air charge does NOT need to be hot or cold because of solubility of Oxygen in water that changes with temperature and I will also be adding alcohol to the mixture. The key is to introduce some water vapor into the intake system which will dynamically change as it gets closer to the intake valves and into the combustion chambers. Sorry as I said in the beginning of my thread post #1 not a technical talk thread. Some of you that know some of this stuff can either go wt f or hmm interesting and form a hypothesis about my project.

Onward.... soooooo I purchased a mini funnel ran the intake line through the radiator support and will be securing it in the grill. I painted the funnel and the location should not effect the normal incoming air to the condenser but as you can see from the pictures and the use of my handy Dywers Magnolethic meter that I would conventionally use to measure differential air pressure I only am using one tube to simply test if air is actually being rammed into the funnel and to my bottle? You can see in the pictures that with the fan on the lowest setting without the funnel only an open 1/4 hose it works and with the funnel works even better and the fan is even further away for the picture. So that works for me!!





I really love the TRUCK BEDLINER PAINT. It is durable and will stick hard as nails to most materials. And look good .












 

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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 10:30 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:43 PM
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The project is finished and working GREAT! I just came back from a short 45 minute combination highway and through town. No DTC's not adverse engine conditions. So over the next few tank full of fuel I will see if I made any MPG improvement's. I will also scope the combustion chamber and see what they look like as well. Naturally in about 250 miles I will check a couple of spark plugs. It was kind of funny while I am only running a 50/50 mixture of water and alcohol while I was doing the primary adjusting I could smell alcohol burning from the exhaust.















The control valve works very well. You can actually hear the engine start to idle rough if I adjust to much mixture.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:51 PM
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Intake cleaner project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaH9mD81Dfk
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:00 PM
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Nice work and some proven advantages may be just around the corner??

1) Reminds me of back in the day (with carburetors) when people were playing with water/alcohol injection to obtain a cooler charge in the hopes of allowing them to manually advance their timing to achieve better performance and mpg's. Have to wonder if the skyactive computer/sensors will somehow "sense a difference and compensate"

2) Will be interesting to see how the plugs and the backside of the valves look (could be a nice supplement to avert the "dreaded direct injection carbon build up on the backside of the valves")

 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cuzed2
Nice work and some proven advantages may be just around the corner??

1) Reminds me of back in the day (with carburetors) when people were playing with water/alcohol injection to obtain a cooler charge in the hopes of allowing them to manually advance their timing to achieve better performance..........
Thank you for following the project.

Hey... I am one of those guys....
In my hand are 2 water injection jets (antiques) . One was from Marvin Miller around 1975 and the other from EDLBROCK early 80's.

I have been using and have had different water injection and water/meth systems even marketed my own for a few year to go hand in hand with my LPG Augmentation system since about waaaaaay back then.

 

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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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That is Awesome - I never got around to trying it on my '68 327.
So this means you are one of the "pioneering legends"

Has a better ring to it then "Grizzled Veteran"
 
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