stalling without warning
#1
stalling without warning
hi guys.
1990 Miata. runs fantastic then dies sometimes it will restart before I get to the curb; other times I have to wait a few mins.
so far I've only replaced the fuel filter, cleaned the ground connection near the brake cyl, and checked/cleaned the plug connections on the ecu and that cam sensor thing.
i'm thinking it's an electrical issue but i'm no expert.
I know that's not much to go on, and I haven't confirmed fuel pressure, but it doesn't sputter, it just dies as if you pulled the plug, then starts right back up.
1990 Miata. runs fantastic then dies sometimes it will restart before I get to the curb; other times I have to wait a few mins.
so far I've only replaced the fuel filter, cleaned the ground connection near the brake cyl, and checked/cleaned the plug connections on the ecu and that cam sensor thing.
i'm thinking it's an electrical issue but i'm no expert.
I know that's not much to go on, and I haven't confirmed fuel pressure, but it doesn't sputter, it just dies as if you pulled the plug, then starts right back up.
#2
I think it's electrical as well.
Check the ignition parts next. Also check the cable connections at the battery and the alternator.
A failing alternator can cause some strange things because of the severe voltage jumps.
Check the ignition parts next. Also check the cable connections at the battery and the alternator.
A failing alternator can cause some strange things because of the severe voltage jumps.
#3
where to start w/ ignition troubleshoot? when its running, it shows no symptoms.
I've googled and found ignition switch threads and cam sensor threads, ect. I don't wanna throw money at it (but I guess it would help narrow things down).
I will check connections on alt and battery terminals.
I've googled and found ignition switch threads and cam sensor threads, ect. I don't wanna throw money at it (but I guess it would help narrow things down).
I will check connections on alt and battery terminals.
#4
Is this OBD1, in other words is there a check or service engine light? Do the dash lights flicker go out or stay on? Dash lights meaing check oil, hot, brake on ect? Also does it have an electric fuel pump? You say restarts before it gets to the curb, does it restart immediatly?
#5
hi thanks.
I just was watching it run in the garage.
the seatbelt light was lit as I wasn't in there while it idled.
the engine died and ALL lights on the dash stayed out for about ten seconds then all the idiot lights came on as if i'd just inserted the key.
it wont restart until these idiot lights come back on.
I just was watching it run in the garage.
the seatbelt light was lit as I wasn't in there while it idled.
the engine died and ALL lights on the dash stayed out for about ten seconds then all the idiot lights came on as if i'd just inserted the key.
it wont restart until these idiot lights come back on.
#7
thank you Kevin.
it runs, dies. wont start.
ten, sometimes thirty, seconds later, the dash lights(idiot lights, indicators) come on and the car will start back up.
the car will not restart until these indicator lights come back on.
I haven't checked the fuel pump. I do not know if its mechanical or electric or the location but I assume the electric would be in or near the tank.
i'm hearing impaired but I will listen carefully while turning the key for an electric pump as per your suggestion.
I was leaning toward an electrical issue because the engine never sputters it starts right up and idles like new. performs flawlessly, then dies instantly as if you pulled the plug on the ignition.
never seems fuel starved.
but I will check it. I was thinking I should get a fuel pressure gauge but I don't have one right now.
it runs, dies. wont start.
ten, sometimes thirty, seconds later, the dash lights(idiot lights, indicators) come on and the car will start back up.
the car will not restart until these indicator lights come back on.
I haven't checked the fuel pump. I do not know if its mechanical or electric or the location but I assume the electric would be in or near the tank.
i'm hearing impaired but I will listen carefully while turning the key for an electric pump as per your suggestion.
I was leaning toward an electrical issue because the engine never sputters it starts right up and idles like new. performs flawlessly, then dies instantly as if you pulled the plug on the ignition.
never seems fuel starved.
but I will check it. I was thinking I should get a fuel pressure gauge but I don't have one right now.
#8
Here is one thing you can do that costs you time but no $$$$.
Remove the battery and the alternator and take them to a parts store for free testing.
If they check out fine you at least eliminated them from the list of usual suspects.
I seem to remember that the early Miatas had issues with the MAF sensor. hmmmm I found it:http://www.miata.net/garage/afm_fix.html
Remove the battery and the alternator and take them to a parts store for free testing.
If they check out fine you at least eliminated them from the list of usual suspects.
I seem to remember that the early Miatas had issues with the MAF sensor. hmmmm I found it:http://www.miata.net/garage/afm_fix.html
Last edited by tanprotege; 09-07-2013 at 06:56 PM.
#9
thank you Kevin.
it runs, dies. wont start.
ten, sometimes thirty, seconds later, the dash lights(idiot lights, indicators) come on and the car will start back up.
the car will not restart until these indicator lights come back on.
I haven't checked the fuel pump. I do not know if its mechanical or electric or the location but I assume the electric would be in or near the tank.
i'm hearing impaired but I will listen carefully while turning the key for an electric pump as per your suggestion.
I was leaning toward an electrical issue because the engine never sputters it starts right up and idles like new. performs flawlessly, then dies instantly as if you pulled the plug on the ignition.
never seems fuel starved.
but I will check it. I was thinking I should get a fuel pressure gauge but I don't have one right now.
it runs, dies. wont start.
ten, sometimes thirty, seconds later, the dash lights(idiot lights, indicators) come on and the car will start back up.
the car will not restart until these indicator lights come back on.
I haven't checked the fuel pump. I do not know if its mechanical or electric or the location but I assume the electric would be in or near the tank.
i'm hearing impaired but I will listen carefully while turning the key for an electric pump as per your suggestion.
I was leaning toward an electrical issue because the engine never sputters it starts right up and idles like new. performs flawlessly, then dies instantly as if you pulled the plug on the ignition.
never seems fuel starved.
but I will check it. I was thinking I should get a fuel pressure gauge but I don't have one right now.
#10
where to start w/ ignition troubleshoot? when its running, it shows no symptoms.
I've googled and found ignition switch threads and cam sensor threads, ect. I don't wanna throw money at it (but I guess it would help narrow things down).
I will check connections on alt and battery terminals.
I've googled and found ignition switch threads and cam sensor threads, ect. I don't wanna throw money at it (but I guess it would help narrow things down).
I will check connections on alt and battery terminals.
How do the sparkplugs look?
Disconnect inspect and reconnect all wire harnesses. Sometimes it removes corrosion and thus makes better contact. You can take off, clean and remount anything. Sometimes you need a new gasket if you do that.
Sure, that's not a direct way to find the problem but a '90 Miata can stand some cleaning, right?