A couple of issues....
#31
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I haven't got enough miles for my first oil change (which the dealer will do for free), but I plan on installing a Fumoto valve to replace the drain plug when I do my first oil change. Just attach a hose to the valve end, place the hose into your oil pan or container and turn the valve. No drip/drops and super easy.
I've got one on another car and it makes things a breeze.
I've got one on another car and it makes things a breeze.
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As for not spilling a drop, I do oil changes in my garage and I dont have a problem making any mess. Accidents will happen there is nothing that will completely prevent that but I would not say that the use of a drain vale would eliminate all possible oil draining spills. LOL
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For those contemplating using a magnetic drain plug, have you considered purchasing a small stand-alone Neodymium magnet and simply placing it on the inside end of your engine's drain plug. These magnets are incredibly strong, much less expensive than a purpose-built aftermarket plug, and can be stacked for increased synergistic gauss field strength. If you are forced to buy a bunch of them, it is still less expensive, possibly more effective than the purpose-built item, and you can have a ball playing with the left over magnets. Here is just one example............................ Frank
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For those contemplating using a magnetic drain plug, have you considered purchasing a small stand-alone Neodymium magnet and simply placing it on the inside end of your engine's drain plug. These magnets are incredibly strong, much less expensive than a purpose-built aftermarket plug, and can be stacked for increased synergistic gauss field strength. If you are forced to buy a bunch of them, it is still less expensive, possibly more effective than the purpose-built item, and you can have a ball playing with the left over magnets. Here is just one example............................ Frank
Magnets on the outside of an oil pan will not work as theorized unless one plans to drop the pan frequently for servicing!
Here is the thing if you have that much metal in your engine you have bigger problems then choosing a magnet. The purpose for some of us to use super strong magnets is to capture and diagnose problems and possible problems. On a Dailey Driver a simple drain pug magnet will do fine!
Here is a a couple of ring magnets. One is a MAZDA factory and the other an aftermarket. Placing them on the bottom of the filter will do the job nicely and NO they will not fall off the oil filter. LOL
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#34
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Not all oil drain plugs are the same in both effectiveness (magnet strength) and quality.
I highly recomend Dimple.
https://drainplugmagnets.com/
I have used them for decades, currently in both my oil pan and my transmission pan on my 2018 Mazda 3 2.5.
The engine oil in Mazda engine new based on a few oil analysis I have have done for others as well myself you are best to do an oil change at 1500 miles and then again at 3000. I won't argue or debate this with anyone I have done oil analysis for years on dozens if not in the hundreds now so unless some of you have the same frame of reference please dont respond with theories or what the dealer tells you about the condition of oil in a new engine! LOL Oil and oil filters are inexpensive !
I will say at 20,000 miles and over 4 oil and filter changes I am still getting break in compounds and other additives from MAZDA showing up in the oil analysis that do not need to be in my engine any longer as they serve no purpose at this point in the miles on the engine.
I highly recomend Dimple.
https://drainplugmagnets.com/
I have used them for decades, currently in both my oil pan and my transmission pan on my 2018 Mazda 3 2.5.
The engine oil in Mazda engine new based on a few oil analysis I have have done for others as well myself you are best to do an oil change at 1500 miles and then again at 3000. I won't argue or debate this with anyone I have done oil analysis for years on dozens if not in the hundreds now so unless some of you have the same frame of reference please dont respond with theories or what the dealer tells you about the condition of oil in a new engine! LOL Oil and oil filters are inexpensive !
I will say at 20,000 miles and over 4 oil and filter changes I am still getting break in compounds and other additives from MAZDA showing up in the oil analysis that do not need to be in my engine any longer as they serve no purpose at this point in the miles on the engine.
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I have almost always had my oil and filter changed at the halfway mileage recommends change (Audi "recommends" every 10k, I changed every y5k). Are you saying for the 'initial" oil and filter changes that you recommend change at 1500miles then 3000miles then follow Mazda oil change recommendations?
I always recomend to change the oil and filter at 5000 miles ( I do 3k on my own personal engines) regardless of the schedule recommendation from auto manufacture or the claims of some oil distributors like Amzoil, Mobil 1 RedLine etc.... (I use all 3 of these to be clear)The only exception would be if you had your oil tested at 5k and the indication were positive to go another few thousand more miles. But the time you did that and invested in the test you may just as well do the oil and filter service.
This RECOMEDATION from me is for GASLONIE ENGINES ONLY
Other types of fuels like Methanol, Propane, Alcohol, Nitromethane all tend to keep the crankcase oils cleaner then using gasoline.
Last edited by Callisto; 03-12-2021 at 01:07 PM.
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I will be using Mobil 1 when I change the oil. Do you know what the initial fill at the factory for the 2.5L Turbo engine is, i.e. dino or synthetic oil?
And, 5w-30 is specified for the viscosity; any problem with using 0w-40 weight oil?
Thanks
And, 5w-30 is specified for the viscosity; any problem with using 0w-40 weight oil?
Thanks
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The oil viscosity used in any given engine should technically based on the operating condition of the engine. The recommendation from auto manufactures is generalized for ease of the average Joe/Jane and not necessarily the best choice globally to use in any given engine ! I use different oil viscosities in my 2018 MAZDA 3, 2.5, and all my SuperCharged and TurboCharged engines depending on the ambient temperature's of the season or if I am tracking the car.
To save another argument on the forum please members before you respond research and learn about the break down information as well other attributes of any oil suppler and the oil viscosity you are considering to use outside the auto manufacture recommendations before you assume MYTH and inaccurate information with no supporting empircal DATA that you may not know about motor oils! Also to ease a few of you about using your choice of brand and oil viscosity anyone using a different viscosity from the auto manufactures recommendation will not void any engine warranty and is protected under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act as long as the recommendation does not state " DO NOT USE ANY OTHER OIL EXCEPT.........".
Last edited by Callisto; 03-12-2021 at 01:49 PM.
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OLD SCHOOL mechanics often say to break-in with conventional oil, then go synthetic.
Perhaps not a bad idea, but some MFG's use a 'break-in' oil of some mysterious formula,
some do not. Corvette, supposedly, has synthetic in from the factory.
I was told to go the recommended 5000 miles on the factory fill and then change oil.
Dealer put Mobil-1 in.
Most modern autos "suggests" synthetic oil. A wise suggestion.
I have a stock of synthetic oil to use up, so It's Valvoline for now.
My 2¢
Perhaps not a bad idea, but some MFG's use a 'break-in' oil of some mysterious formula,
some do not. Corvette, supposedly, has synthetic in from the factory.
I was told to go the recommended 5000 miles on the factory fill and then change oil.
Dealer put Mobil-1 in.
Most modern autos "suggests" synthetic oil. A wise suggestion.
I have a stock of synthetic oil to use up, so It's Valvoline for now.
My 2¢
#39
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OLD SCHOOL mechanics often say to break-in with conventional oil, then go synthetic.
Perhaps not a bad idea, but some MFG's use a 'break-in' oil of some mysterious formula,
some do not. Corvette, supposedly, has synthetic in from the factory.
I was told to go the recommended 5000 miles on the factory fill and then change oil.
Dealer put Mobil-1 in.
Most modern autos "suggests" synthetic oil. A wise suggestion.
I have a stock of synthetic oil to use up, so It's Valvoline for now.
My 2¢
Perhaps not a bad idea, but some MFG's use a 'break-in' oil of some mysterious formula,
some do not. Corvette, supposedly, has synthetic in from the factory.
I was told to go the recommended 5000 miles on the factory fill and then change oil.
Dealer put Mobil-1 in.
Most modern autos "suggests" synthetic oil. A wise suggestion.
I have a stock of synthetic oil to use up, so It's Valvoline for now.
My 2¢
I have been using synthetic oil in all our cars for years. But since our Mazda is turbocharged, I specifically want to use synthetics in order to minimize coking of the oil, which is detrimental to turbo seals, etc.
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So, I took my car on a 120 mile highway trip to get my car pinstriped - wonderful job I might add - really breaks up that solid grey metallic paint....
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