Chipping Paint.
#11
08-27-2020, 05:40 PM
#12
08-27-2020, 06:51 PM
It really is funny how some on these forums feel the need to feel superior and put other posters down if they don't agree with what they say. People are posting their direct experience (me included) with various makes of cars. If its a fact we pick up more chips on the CX-5 than our previous rides this is not somehow "incorrect" or "inaccurate". It is a data point which we ourselves observed. I don't need to have footnotes and other websites or scientific studies to back my opinion up. It is what it is, experience I have had with my Mazda over the past 14 mths and 12k miles. If I happen to have a 2006 BMW with 20k miles and it has less chips than my 2019 Mazda with 12k miles, I would say the paint is more durable. If someone doesn't agree with thisassessment, no problem, just move on. No need to berate the person for having an opinion or tell them they don't know what they are talking about.
I had a GMC Terrain that I put 76,000 miles on in 9 years with no chips in the front. Some rust on passenger door as my rust proofing is failing.
#13
08-28-2020, 02:03 PM
Some reviewers put Mazda up there right behind Honda and Toyota. Some guy out in California had a 6 sedan that lasted 600,000 miles before the junk yard got it.
I had a GMC Terrain that I put 76,000 miles on in 9 years with no chips in the front. Some rust on passenger door as my rust proofing is failing.
I had a GMC Terrain that I put 76,000 miles on in 9 years with no chips in the front. Some rust on passenger door as my rust proofing is failing.
Last edited by chickdr19; 08-28-2020 at 02:11 PM.
#14
08-28-2020, 02:09 PM
Paint - In general, your paint is warranted against fading, oxidation, and loss of gloss.", but it doesn't mention chips so I don't expect it would help much. Xpel is the best solution and you already have it.
#16
08-28-2020, 03:30 PM
I test drove three 2019 CX-5s before making my purchase, all at or below 15k miles: one Signature in Soul Red, one GT Reserve in Jet Black, and one GT Reserve in Snowflake White. Of the three, the black one had the most miles and the red one had the most paint chips. It had chips on the hood mostly, but even had a couple on the edge of the tailgate. The black one (a dealership loaner) had the roughest paint scratch-wise, but the number of rock chips was negligible. The white one, which we ended up purchasing, has the best paint (at ~3000 miles) but also hides chips much better as the contrast between paint and primer isn't so noticeable.
I will admit that I look at this stuff much closer than the average owner. If I were to ask my wife which of the three cars we drove had the best or worst paint, she would definitely pick the black one because of some damage at the top of one of the rear doors. So, the fact that "some don't have this issue" is subjective. Despite Callisto's views on modern paint quality, I think modern car paint is sprayed much thinner than vehicles in the past, and this is especially prevalent on candy or metallic paints. One the clear coat is breached, the likelihood of chipping all the way down to primer seems much higher than on thicker paints.
Again, anecdotally, my 2006 Honda CR-V with over 216k miles, which we rarely washed and never protected in any way, looked near new when we sold it a couple of weeks ago (other than all the dings from goddamn acorns). Chips, where present, were few and generally due to events that were memorable (like a large stone pinging off the hood at highway speed).
But what do we know?
I will admit that I look at this stuff much closer than the average owner. If I were to ask my wife which of the three cars we drove had the best or worst paint, she would definitely pick the black one because of some damage at the top of one of the rear doors. So, the fact that "some don't have this issue" is subjective. Despite Callisto's views on modern paint quality, I think modern car paint is sprayed much thinner than vehicles in the past, and this is especially prevalent on candy or metallic paints. One the clear coat is breached, the likelihood of chipping all the way down to primer seems much higher than on thicker paints.
Again, anecdotally, my 2006 Honda CR-V with over 216k miles, which we rarely washed and never protected in any way, looked near new when we sold it a couple of weeks ago (other than all the dings from goddamn acorns). Chips, where present, were few and generally due to events that were memorable (like a large stone pinging off the hood at highway speed).
But what do we know?
Last edited by grim_reaper; 08-31-2020 at 05:39 PM.
#17
08-28-2020, 11:37 PM
And I don't disagree on overall quality. I think Mazda is excellent. Paint quality, on the other hand, is an area needing work. I would not take Mazda off my list because of paint issues, but it would be nice if the paint quality was taken up a notch since they are presenting themselves as a premium car maker.
The complaints I've heard or read about seem to be that gorgeous red, white, and a couple of others.
Time will tell. I would think that Mazda, aware of the issue would take quick steps to address the
issue. Slightly thicker paint, a second coat of clear, etc..
Guess we'll see.
#18
08-29-2020, 09:31 AM
To answer the OP's question. I have a '19 Machine Gray CX5 and it has several small chips on the hood at 12k miles and 13 mths of driving. The black '16 RDX I had before it was also bad about chips. I had a clear bra put on the Acura within a month of purchase, but it wasn't soon enough as I had picked up a large chip in the center of the hood within a few hundred miles. In my opinion, my German cars (Porsche and current BMW) have had much better (ie more durable) paints. Of course I would expect a higher end car to have better paint. I have read Infiniti uses a "self healing paint", but I don't understand how it works. My current car is leased so it isn't a big deal to me, but if I purchase my next CX-5 it will have a full hood / front bumper clear bra put on the day I buy it.
#19
08-30-2020, 10:10 AM
It really is funny how some on these forums feel the need to feel superior and put other posters down if they don't agree with what they say. People are posting their direct experience (me included) with various makes of cars. If its a fact we pick up more chips on the CX-5 than our previous rides this is not somehow "incorrect" or "inaccurate". It is a data point which we ourselves observed. I don't need to have footnotes and other websites or scientific studies to back my opinion up. It is what it is, experience I have had with my Mazda over the past 14 mths and 12k miles. If I happen to have a 2006 BMW with 20k miles and it has less chips than my 2019 Mazda with 12k miles, I would say the paint is more durable. If someone doesn't agree with thisassessment, no problem, just move on. No need to berate the person for having an opinion or tell them they don't know what they are talking about.
I don't understand why a manufacture don't put top paint on a car considering when people see them in the real world it is a tell tale sign of how well a car holds up over time
#20
08-30-2020, 10:20 AM
To answer the OP's question. I have a '19 Machine Gray CX5 and it has several small chips on the hood at 12k miles and 13 mths of driving. The black '16 RDX I had before it was also bad about chips. I had a clear bra put on the Acura within a month of purchase, but it wasn't soon enough as I had picked up a large chip in the center of the hood within a few hundred miles. In my opinion, my German cars (Porsche and current BMW) have had much better (ie more durable) paints. Of course I would expect a higher end car to have better paint. I have read Infiniti uses a "self healing paint", but I don't understand how it works. My current car is leased so it isn't a big deal to me, but if I purchase my next CX-5 it will have a full hood / front bumper clear bra put on the day I buy it.