What rotors do you use? I dont pay $300 on my F40

 

I engineer and design BBKs front and even for the rear on a couple platforms.
As for my Mazda ,even that I did some brake component mods to make them more pleasing for looks . In fact I will be doing a complete brake job in a couple of weeks that *will at least be disc and pads front and rear. Maybe a little more depends on if I have time and feel like it .But it’s time for pads a disc .
And yes a single replacement disc, for my BBK is $300 each.
I prefer and generally recommend Stop Tech discs
I also have installed a few sets of Cork Sport BBK front kits . They are great quality and competitive price for the kit. I have a set but have not yet installed it on my personal Mazda.
*I did have to upgrade the rotors to both drilled and slots for looks looks . And to match the rear discs

Here is some of my work.

 

Yes, it is typical.
Very few "brake repair" shops left that actually have the equipment to resurface rotors and as a former machinist I can confirm it is generally cheaper to purchase new rotors than pay costs to have old ones resurfaced.
Rotors can only be resurfaced if they can remain within tolerances for the calipers which is different for almost every vehicle make braking system and machinist abilities at measuring the tolerance varies.
New rotors are manufactured by machines using strict computer-controlled measurements.
For the past 30 years, when I replace worn out pads, I replace the rotors because for me I get the best braking at the most cost-effective pricing.

 

That’s the same amount ($1786.65+tax) that I’m getting quoted by Autobahn, the shop in western MA that services all my cars (now down to 2 since my wife sold the 1990 Miata that she bought in Aug/89.). Autobahn is top-dollar but is a extremely thorough and reliable. The Mazda dealer is further from where we live and would charge the same.

 

Contacting several Brake Layth manufacturing and distributors of them can give a complete list of service shops across the US that have them and offer the service.
Randomly looking at service shop in different state(s) its seems even on the east coast many still have and offer to "turn" disc?
To name a few
Midas
Firestone
Morall
On site brakes
Goodyear service station


I should also point out that it is still part of the training in most all basic automotive schools.
So, while some or to save debate and arguments, service shops don't invest and have skilled mechanics to do a simple disc brake turning many other still do nation wide

On the subject of brakes and specifically brake pads don't forget whom ever does your pads regardless of the brand , "bed" them in for the best performance and generally noise free from your new brake pads.

Bedding in new brake pads is the process of conditioning the pads and rotors to work together effectively, enhancing braking performance and longevity.

What is Brake Bedding?

Brake bedding, also known as brake pad bedding or break-in, involves a series of controlled braking actions that gradually heat the brake components. This process helps to create a thin, even layer of pad material on the rotor surface, which is crucial for optimal braking performance. New brake pads and rotors often have surfaces that do not mesh perfectly, leading to reduced friction and inconsistent braking if not properly bedded.

 

[QUOTE=Callisto;241121]Contacting several Brake Layth manufacturing and distributors of them can give a complete list of service shops across the US that have them and offer the service.
Randomly looking at service shop in different state(s) its seems even on the east coast many still have and offer to "turn" disc?
To name a few
Midas
Firestone
Morall
On site brakes
Goodyear service station


I should also point out that it is still part of the training in most all basic automotive schools.
So, while some or to save debate and arguments, service shops don't invest and have skilled mechanics to do a simple disc brake turning many other still do nation wide

On the subject of brakes and specifically brake pads don't forget whom ever does your pads regardless of the brand , "bed" them in for the best performance and generally noise free from your new brake pads.

Bedding in new brake pads is the process of conditioning the pads and rotors to work together effectively, enhancing braking performance and longevity.

What is Brake Bedding?

^^^^ ABSOLUTELY! (how many shops/service advisors do you think even mention this to any customers??)

 

Great point, many don't but it is generally some information about that service on the finalized service invoice that almost no one ever reads and just signs them.
The other negative about service shops that I often see posted and must painfully agree is the balance between a high gross profit (GP) service vs a low one. Turning a disc/rotor takes more time and the GP is less because most rotor machining is 15-30 dollars flat rate and shops are hard pressed to add to much on the labor cost by hourly rate for that service of the complete brake pad and disc R&R or servicing. So its is not always offered unless the customers asks about the service!

Honestly our shop and many better shops will offer turning a disc (if after measuring them are within the marching limits) if the customers do not want to buy new ones. And if they only want the pads replaced there is no warranty on the pads except for obvious defects . Many people also don't read that information on the finalized service when they sign it either.

As for bedding in the pads, we like better quality service shops during a test-drive after the brake shop will do a good enough bedding of the new brakes at least enough that when we further explain to the customer about how to bed them in, they at least have a start to that bedding procedure.

Is all you DIY read the material in better quality and many well-known brake suppliers there is a note in there about bedding in the new pads. But I am sure most discard it as the rest of the information in the box because a DIY knows all about what and how to do brake pad replacements!

 

This may be all the service I will be doing to my Mazda in the coming weeks?
And yes I am using Posi Quiet pads because there will already be disc noise that is always created with drilled or slotted or drilled and slotted discs. For my it will already be a retraining to get use to that noise when I am lessening to my Mazda sound system when just cruising. LOL
I will also show that technically the OEM Mazda rotors are well withing the service limits that are on each of the front discs and continue to use but as I have had these brake parts ready for a few years I won't be needing to consider doing anything except disposing of them?
The BBK will be after I lower the Mazda and install the new suspension which may not be this year. I am no hurry for the project especially installing the front sway bar.
I try to keep most all of my servicing to doing it at my home so that that any member and the members that are DIY can see that most service and projects can be done by them with very few specialized tools.
This is important for me when I respond because I do have a fully equipped service shop I manage , I could use anytime which really does make servicing a vehicle easier.

 

I had my front rotors and pads replaced at about 30k. I purchased OEM Mazda rotors and pads online for around $200 and had a mobile mechanic come to my house and install them for $150. I later had another mobile mechanic come to do the rear brakes when the dealer told me they were worn out and quoted $600 to replace the pads. His diagnosis was that the rotors were fine and the pads had 50% left, but I went ahead and had him install the new pads as I had already purchased them. I spent about $200 parts and labor. I would recommend looking for a good mobile mechanic after buying some quality parts online (Callisto showed one good brand above). 1,800 is absolutely insane IMHO. You could also consider DIY with a few simple tools. You have to put the electronic parking brake into service mode, but this is not hard and YT will show you how to do it (along with the entire process of replacing pads and rotors).

 

As a former machinist myself, unless a person attends an Automotive and Machinist Technology school, they will not get proper training.
An ASME certification is not the same as those in the machinist's field (NIMS I & II / CNC / Milling I & II / MEM / CMTSE / PMC and the like).
Modern rotors are manufactured to specific tolerances and the majority of them cannot be resurfaced/turned without going outside the tolerance. Going outside the tolerance can impact your vehicles braking ability and/or damage your calipers.
It is much more cost effective and safer to replace rotors with new ones than replace a single caliper.