127,000 MILES and lack of service.
You may have already done your transmission service -- and YES its time to drop the pan and replace the filter -- #1 Suggest using only MAZDA OE TYPE-FZ automatic transmission fluid - I worked in an independent legit transmission rebuild shop which has been in business over 35 years now and learned quite a bit --so take what you need --forget the rest - #2 IF its AWD then you likely have a separate transfer case ( newer CX5s dont - not sure which year they were married into one ) which will require a different fluid which is similar and may be the same as the rear diff fluid ( again if its AWD ) so start with the Transmission and drain , then drop the pan and inspect the magnets for accumulation of metallic shavings --If its heavy -- clean it well and hope for the best here . Let it drain well - using a receptacle which will give you an accurate measurement of how much fluid drained out --it can be tricky as you know when the pan gets dropped so get every drop . Pull the filter and give it a good look inside - even cutting it open to view any accumulation of metallic or other debris --as well determine if its original equipment --? Meaning never been serviced before - Replace with OE filter - then get a very good hard plastic edge to clean the pan and transmission surfaces without damaging them --crucial - the apply your RTV and allow more than adequate time for full drying before refilling . If the 19 has a separate transfer case and diff --get started on the rear diff and then transfer case while waiting --if you can ,wait a full day --depending on the RTV you use - the inside can take longer to dry . Measure the fluid that came out -- and replace that amount . Remember you asked 5-6 quarts? Expect less as the torque converter will retain fluid as well so will other areas above the valve body -iIm not sure if the 2019 has a drain plug on the torque converter --likely not --if so drain that too -( never seen one on a CX5)--- After refill . start - drive getting it up to temp --if you have a lazer external thermometer -- shoot both sides and make sure its correct- Check level while hot and at Idle right after driving --adjust fluid --recheck under vehicle for leaks --then replace the splash guard - IF it still has upshift issues , and theres no code - drive it and let the new detergents/lubricants in the new fluid do their stuff -- You should see an improvement- Best on that
Last edited by retread888; Jul 26, 2025 at 02:42 PM.
transmission is all serviced . Was original fluid and pan sealant as far as i could tell. 6 quarts came out including what was in filter. Sealed it up with RTV.
Only issue was when i tightened pan down and 1 bolt stripped out.... But at this time it not leaking and it shifts better.
Only issue was when i tightened pan down and 1 bolt stripped out.... But at this time it not leaking and it shifts better.
transmission is all serviced . Was original fluid and pan sealant as far as i could tell. 6 quarts came out including what was in filter. Sealed it up with RTV.
Only issue was when i tightened pan down and 1 bolt stripped out.... But at this time it not leaking and it shifts better.
Only issue was when i tightened pan down and 1 bolt stripped out.... But at this time it not leaking and it shifts better.
As for the bolt …
as a past Chrysler Tech you know the best thread repair in that area is to Time-sert it.
Time -sert-it ??? Im assuming you mean leave it alone if its not leaking.?
In future if i have to remove pan , there were also 2 other bolts that didn't go in well, ..So if i have to remove pan again I guess I'll have to drill out and put a few Heli coil in.
Doing a Coolant service is next job..
Last edited by carls2018; Jul 27, 2025 at 12:46 PM.
Old fluid was like 0 weight BLACK OIL.
Time -sert-it ??? Im assuming you mean leave it alone if its not leaking.?
In future if i have to remove pan , there were also 2 other bolts that didn't go in well, ..So if i have to remove pan again I guess I'll have to drill out and put a few Heli coil in.
Doing a Coolant service is next job..
Time -sert-it ??? Im assuming you mean leave it alone if its not leaking.?
In future if i have to remove pan , there were also 2 other bolts that didn't go in well, ..So if i have to remove pan again I guess I'll have to drill out and put a few Heli coil in.
Doing a Coolant service is next job..
The ATF does not change it viscosity rating and as far as I am aware there is no ATF that is 0 viscosity.
Time-Sert are the best for a permeant thread repair not heli- coils. Not to mention there is far less chance of screw up using them whereas many DIY and some mechanics botch the heli-coil install making the thread damage even greater and more challenging to clean up to install a better thread repair.
++ TIME-SERT Official Threaded inserts for stripped threads, blown out sparkplugs,
Side notation: it is always a good idea to chase the threads when doing any service on any part of the vehcle to insure a clean thread or fastener.
The extra time to do that service may save a longer time period to repair a thread.
Last edited by Callisto; Jul 27, 2025 at 01:20 PM.
AS far as the viscosity i was just meant it was light weight ..
And agree the time-sert would be better option at transmission pan,,, But ive done plenty of HELI Coils over the years and never botched one up.
And off subject of my veh , i never agreed about leaving a Heli coil installed below the surface in some cases., But that discussion would be best for different post.
And agree the time-sert would be better option at transmission pan,,, But ive done plenty of HELI Coils over the years and never botched one up.
And off subject of my veh , i never agreed about leaving a Heli coil installed below the surface in some cases., But that discussion would be best for different post.
AS far as the viscosity i was just meant it was light weight ..
And agree the time-sert would be better option at transmission pan,,, But ive done plenty of HELI Coils over the years and never botched one up.
And off subject of my veh , i never agreed about leaving a Heli coil installed below the surface in some cases., But that discussion would be best for different post.
And agree the time-sert would be better option at transmission pan,,, But ive done plenty of HELI Coils over the years and never botched one up.
And off subject of my veh , i never agreed about leaving a Heli coil installed below the surface in some cases., But that discussion would be best for different post.
For a pan with the threads partially damaged that will no longer secure (the proper torque) a fastener they will suffice. And I am sure you already looked at the cost of a basic kit for every single size needed in the time-sert kits. You would spend a few hundred dollars for the basic most common sizes and a fully stocked set about 500+ dollars. I know trust me.

Black ATF is never a good sign, and it means that there is a varnish throughout the transmission.
Heli-coils were the best to-go-to fix repair but they were never shown to be long term proven . I used them at one time extensively in my Engine Performance Machine shop and during the time period time-setrs were to expensive for customers. And to be sure in a pinch I still have a full stock of standard and metric heli-coils. But carefully choose when to use them and more when not to.
For a pan with the threads partially damaged that will no longer secure (the proper torque) a fastener they will suffice. And I am sure you already looked at the cost of a basic kit for every single size needed in the time-sert kits. You would spend a few hundred dollars for the basic most common sizes and a fully stocked set about 500+ dollars. I know trust me.
Black ATF is never a good sign, and it means that there is a varnish throughout the transmission.
For a pan with the threads partially damaged that will no longer secure (the proper torque) a fastener they will suffice. And I am sure you already looked at the cost of a basic kit for every single size needed in the time-sert kits. You would spend a few hundred dollars for the basic most common sizes and a fully stocked set about 500+ dollars. I know trust me.

Black ATF is never a good sign, and it means that there is a varnish throughout the transmission.
Last edited by carls2018; Jul 27, 2025 at 03:06 PM.
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