hey baby huey I tried man its not the valve you were talking about, I did excactly as you said. I also checked the fuel filter seems to be getting fuel. I still hear some wierd rumbling noise that feels like its coming from the lines underneath the car(between cranks). Im lost at this point. When It first would not start for the first time, when i pulled out the spark plugs to check for spark one rear plug was totally saturated with oil. After I changed them it seemed to happen to a different plug in the back as well but not as bad but was saturated enough I think to foul out. Both times after changing the plugs the car started right up, but always missed for some reason even after i pulled them out again and checked the gaps real good and changed the wires. Is it possible that the valve cover is causing all this from the leaks. But i do have to tell you, that now the plugs seem to look dry at least from the top looking down in the hole(without pulling them) The car would not start at all today and I did not refuel, but I did not try and start it for a day , seems to be when you let it sit this is when it happens for real. But as i said before if it starts it keeps starting at least for that day. I also have a problem and have had a problem with this car since I bought it with the temp, mainly in the warm weather it goes pretty close to the H zone at times and then the fan kicks on to cool it, In the warmer weather this is constant at times, but sometimes does not do it at all. I don't know if this has anything to do with this problem but I thought I would mention it.

If there is anything else you can add as input as far as what to try , I'm all ears.

and as always your support is most appreciated here and always will be.

thanks
cug

 

could also be a bad head gasket. it might not be TOO bad, but it could be getting there.if there is a bad valve cover gasket, there could definitely bea little leakage...

 

Perhaps we are getting into things a little too complex before making sure of the basics cugene. Could well be that the refuelling has absolutely nothing to do with not starting but was just a coincidence. Lets start with making sure you have spark and fuel when this no start is happening. #2 phillips screwdriver stuck into one of the plug wire ends and held 1/4-1/2 inch away from a solid metal ground spot on the engine while cranking will let us know if you have good spark. A fuel pressure gauge could be rented or borrowed from a parts store that does this and then we could start ruling out some things.
Am concerned about the uneven cranking speed of slowing up and down. Sounds like a timing belt is jumping around but the odds that it would jump back into correct time the next day and start and run normally are about a billion to one so that is not likely. The odd air type noise you are hearing could also point to something but unless you can get car up on jackstands and have someone crank engine while you listen for and trace down what is making the noise we do not know if it is relevant or not. Lets just make sure you have good fuel pressure and spark first.

 

hey babyhuey, thanks again for stayin with me on this saga. I got a little down about the whole situation and gave up for a few, but I will try what you said just after the holiday, and you have a good one yourself.

ill be in touch
cugene