The check engine light turned on yesterday. Took car to auto parts store who scanned and gave me the code. I had a recall done about 3 years ago 2014 Mazda6 equipped with 2.5L Engine Fuel in Canister - Safety and Emission Recall 7414D.

Mazda Motor Corporation has decided that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in certain 2014 Mazda6 vehicles equipped with 2.5L engine and produced from October 25, 2012 10 through May 9, 2013. 11 12 On certain Mazda6 vehicles, it is possible to refuel beyond the rated fuel tank capacity. If over-fueling 13 is followed by a large temperature change, the fuel volume may expand beyond the remaining vapor 14 space in the fuel tank. Under this condition, fuel may enter the charcoal canister, the malfunction 15 indicator light may illuminate, and if fuel exceeds the canister capacity, fuel leakage could result.

CONDITION OF CONCERN On certain Mazda6 vehicles, it is possible that they can be refueled beyond the rated fuel tank capacity. If it occurs, followed by a large temperature change, the fuel volume may expand beyond the remaining vapor space in the fuel tank. Under this condition, fuel may potentially flow into the charcoal canister which is designed to control the evaporative emissions and the evaporative emission performance may be diminished. Furthermore, when the expanding amount of fuel exceeds the capacity of the canister, fuel may potentially leak from the external vent, increasing the risk of a fire.

According to the warrany instructions. The canister was not replaced because the weight of the canister was standard weight.
Weigh and record the standard weight (B). Weigh and record the canister weight. Record both readings on the Check Sheet and compare. • If the canister is lighter than the standard weight: Install the original charcoal canister. • If the canister and the standard weight are equal: Install the original charcoal canister. • If the canister is heavier than the standard weight: Replace the charcoal canister with a new one.

I wish they would have told me about this when they did the recall. I would have demanded that they replace the canister at this time. Maybe the check engine light will go off. Maybe it is a different problem. Seems like this model year and car have lots of problems with sensors and switches that have cost me time and money.

 

wow lots of DIY theories no real data and I love the part about "DEMANDING" anything from a dealership!
Lets see how well that works out for anyone that does that. keep in mind that a dealership is an independently owned business and can refuse to do any service for you. Then you would need to go to another dealership and hopefully not have a BIG ATTITUIDE ..
Please don't tell me you would sue because it would be civil suit and if you are driving a Mazda, you don't have the deep pockets to attempt that and no there is no class action suit with your BS issue.
I also see you suggest or implied that your Mazda was service under a Safety recall or other TSB(s)? So under USA Federal regulations pertaining to SAFETY recalls and requirement under that regulation by auto manufactures in the USA Mazda service your septic Mazda??
ROLMAO
Or even better write your DIY information that you posted here and send it to Mazda USA(Corp) and see what their reply to you is. Please post the exact reply from Mazda on this thread.
Do more research and maybe you should actually learn about how in the USA gas stations are required to have back pressure safety shut off. So, unless the pump station has a problem the days of over filling a fuel tank without manually forcing TOPING OFF your scenarios really don't exist?

But lets say for shiiiits and giggles some of what you claim is possible?
Please post the volume formulas as well the thermal formulas of gasoline expansion in a semi enclosed tank. Please give the complete empty volume as well the actual volume with all internal parts in the tank when sating your theorized formulas.
And yes I will be waiting forum them and if your math seems "fu**ed up I have a couple of friends that are quantum physic nerds and love to debunk formulas randomly posted by armatures.
Just when I thought I have read everything possible on any vehcle forum there is always someone that pops on joins a forum and wants to plat Automotive Engineer!



What I read is a person joins a forum, and we all have seen this before only to complain on their first posting as a new member because they feel they were not taken care of well. What.... does this supposed to rally the troops for support or simpathy .. People who do this on forums will more than often not be accepted very well as a new member first time poster.


Now that I got readers attention....

in the first line
This statement from titorivera says it all! He does not even apparently own a Diagnostic scanner of his own? A parts store employee likely does not have a Certification as an Automotive Diagnostic Technical let alone apparently know how to look in all the important service reporting areas of the ECU yet the only found ONE DTC? And what was that DTC?? who knows it was not givin. But as I am sure readers have seen me post many times DTC are only starting points to start a diagnostic finding path to resolve or find the cause of a DTC and that any DTC may not necessary be anything related to that DTC but an accumulation of events that the ECU triggered the DTC. NO mention to the relative to emissio0n indicated in the opening post what the state of the I/M is and which ones specifically?

The mentioned Safety recall and or the exact TSB which clearly how the first post was written not read completely let alone understating it. one indication is the wording
. I read the TSB completely and if other do the first page you will understand where I am going with this if anyone is really interested? LOL

Then there is back to the demanding or completely explain a TSB. For one thing this OP did not read what is on every page of any TSB and also provided on Safety recalls. Now If in the case and NOT required a dealership service department had and took the time to explain in detail a SAFTY recall Service the owner would if they completely understood the TSB and SAFATY recall service information completely could ask that addition services be done like using different parts. This would have delayed the service for an answer from Mazda crop which could take several days or longer and then the question would come to mind the possible need to revise the current Safety recall and related TSB BEFORE the service parts request could be used.
Can you imagine the metal state of this new member had that happened. LOL 3-4 weeks before getting there Mazda service and returned. And as a Safety recall once it is in the shop and logged VIN in the system if you take your vehcle from the shop you would loos all warranty service. Why SAFTY RECALL refused to have serviced.
For those that also didn't catch the Safety recall mentioned in the post # was from the NHTSA. Notice something interesting reading and understanding it completely?
RCONL-14V170-0123.pdf

I should mention that at this point in the time line we are all guessing based on the information in the first post that Mazda has not refused to service the under warranty the current possible issue based on the parts store employee find a single DTC. LOL

So one would ask why did this member join a forum to start such an wild thread in the first place.

To the op Thank you for the great entertaining start of my work day . While I typed this response I had this thread on the 85 inch shop screen for all my service individuals to read so that they could smile of laugh along with me.

 

Anyhow, you seem to be lacking coffee or a donut today. Not going to say anything nasty about you. I had the recall done at Mazda. Was just hoping to see if someone else had this problem. or better yet, this might help someone else. I am the original owner on this Mazda 6 2014 Sport with 60,000 original miles.
I posted this message under a new username. Under my prior username, I have posted several times before. My main point, was that in retrospect, I would have replaced the canister when the recall work was done. The Mazda dealer when they did the work, had to remove the rear seat cushion to access the fuel pump. Maybe they should have mentioned something to me about the canister while they where working on the recall. The car was left with a gas smell for about a week after the job was done. Slloppiness. BTW, ee called a mechanic at an ASE certified mechanic yesterday and they said that they would run the same diagnostic first. The canister part costs over $250.

 

Thank you for quoting my long complete response. LOL Who does that on a forum? Like a reader cant see my original response. LOL

Having multiple accounts on this forum is not allowed. I did report the thread and perhaps your I.P. should be checked to see how many other accounts you have on this forum?

Your posting is not helpful because it lacks any real advice except how to **** off a service department and potentially loosening delaying a service through them or advised to go to another Mazda dealership.
As for my breakfast and coffee you post provide GREAT ENTERTAINMENT to both me one customer and all my service techs.

And the more you post the more you lack even common sense about services.
Let me expand....
QUOTE=titorivera;241657] The car was left with a gas smell for about a week after the job was done. Slloppiness.
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MANY platforms and their models fuel tank are under the rear seat. Changing any parts in the fuel tanks WILL leave a fuel smell for a day or so and longer if common sense about perhaps leaving the windows down when not in the vehicle when it is safe to do so or parked in a garage.
I know we explain to our customers exactly that and if the smell is really bad keep the car over night and run a fan in it with all the doors ,hatch or trunk open. I also communicate with several service departments in several dealership as well independent service shops as well and can tell you this is common practice.
here the question... but please don't answer... why you didn't ask the service advisor when you picked up your Mazda about the fuel smell?? Maybe he would have told you what I just wrote. Maybe he didnt because he thought you had some common sense. I guess that much he was wrong about. LOL

As for a service mechanic running to you to give you option on any service that there are exact steps to follow and in the case of the Safety recall ....why would they? They are following the service bulletin exactly!


As for your last line ...... heck dude I know I have bad writing skills but wow I read it serval times and still thinking about what you are trying to say and claim? LOL
lol​​​​​​​

 

I will restrain myself here. But you are a rude person IMHO. When they finished the recall they left the car running outside with the AC running for a long time with the windows open to try to get rid of the gas smell. I thought that was weird. We questioned them about it, but did not get a response. Maybe they spilled gas when they did the work I suspect. The service advisor did not seem to care. We drove 1 hour back to our house with the car windows down. It took a week for the smell to go away. We called service about the smell, they did not have any explanation for that. The gas tank was nearly empty when the car was brought in for the recall service. So where did the gas come from. I would like to have been aware of the canister issue so I could have made an informed decision. Dealer gets paid for the warranty work and sends the customer home. Easy money for the dealer. Customer has a car with a gas smell for a week. Some Mazda dealer mechanics are more proactive and customer-service oriented than others.. When you bring in the car, they talk to you and create a detailed service inspection video which is helpful.

 

I will be happy when I get a PM of who your other account is/was here>

Rude ... that's your opinion, most as well as myself know me to be honest straight forward and really hate BS posted on the forum or any other forum for that matter. .

not for a response or a rhetorical question/comment ... Why would they turn the AC on to rid the gas fumes/smell?? The HVAC specifically when in AC mode automatically recirculates the cabin air. Maybe someone thought they could "chill" the fumes from the Mazda LOL But then again that's your word about what was done and we all already know that it is questionable at best.
Taking a week for gas fumes to be rid from a cabin and service of many kinds even a carpet cleaning is very common. Anyone can randomly call dealership service departments, service shops and even auto detail shops and ask them. As for spilling fuel, sometimes the best or precautions accidents happen. Good news it is an easy clean up and YUP the smell could remain up to about a week or ten days.
Here a funny side note. When you use the HVAC system and set recirculate the cabin air, you have no idea what the cabin smells like because of olfactoryadaptation. Some people stink so bad that smell seems to NEVER get out of their vehicles and yet owners are never aware of their own stink in a vehicle.

Lastly I seem to need to repeat information, Dealerships are independent business and as such there are good and not so good service departments and then there are GREAT service departments.
Just like going to Taco Bell or Star Bucks , sometimes not so proactive with customer service. LOL

 

No worries... Like you said, some dealers are good and some are bad. Dealers take shortcuts. They left the car running with the windows open. No reason to let it run. They had the AC on. When I put some gas in the tank to get home.

 

100% agree with you.

 

We are in agreement!
What is your honest opinion about the Mazda 6 2014 Sport? I have 60,000 miles. Just put new Michelin tires on it. Keep it or sell it privately?

 

The 2.5 Skyactive engine and transmission are for the most part if basic services are done above the recommended Mazda scheduling can be a very reliable powertrain. The rest of the model like chassis and suspension are normal wear items. The **** pit and other interior or body features I don't really have an opinion one way or another. We seldom do any service related to that area on any platforms.
At 60k miles your Mazda is a teenager.... so, to say. Feed it good fuel, change the oils and filters more often, wash it and rinse the under carriage at least a couple times a year it will be less likely to act up.

Oh, and when the check engine light comes on find someone that can at least look at the 3 basic areas in the ECU for better information to why the caution light popped up.