Cold Air System
Why bother; your car came from the factory with a cold air intake. That and many aftermarket CAI systems are prone to ingesting water and causing hydrolock in the engine.
The factory Air Intake System on most all model MAZDA manufactured from 1995 and newer is not a cold air intake. From 2002 and newer most MAZDA for consumer use as a daily driver , among the top reason why it is not a cold air intake, the emissions systems and the ECU multi-million dollars configurations for EMISSION standard in many countries specifically the USA and California , that relays on making sure the lowest exhaust emission are possible and one key factor is the warmer temperatures the engine brings into the the engine through the air-filter/intake system.
Hydrolocking an engine because of the use of a aftermarket CAI
SO RARE a true happening, it is almost not really even worth mentioning ........but now on this forum as well as a few other forums on different platforms it occasionally gets inaccurate or incomplete information posted...
CAI's provided by most better manufactures and suppliers such as AEM, K&N CorkSport etc,,(can also contact them direct on this subject for there professional opinion this subject) when used as designed I am not ( have sold CAI and aftermarket performance air cleaners since 1977) aware anywhere in the world their CAI was directly proven a cause of HYDROLOCKING an engine. Besides technically speaking most designs are actually less likely even if you submerge the engine to Hydrolock an engine vs a stock intake which would actually act somewhat as a container to hold water longer which theatrically could cause an engine to Hydrolock. (for though who really know what I am getting at ...you are smiling and know what I am talking about
) Then there is that good old THROTLE BODY and its position relative to the required flow of air for the engines speed ....or maybe in a theatrical submerging we could even call the TB a water flow control valve
hehehe..... I diligently looked for an absolute factual posting that a aftermarket CAI from a quality manufacture and supplier anywhere in the world when their product was used as designed not for competitive off road racing or a clement catastrophe causing someone to drive through a flooded area submerging part or all of their engine while it is running directly causing the engine to become HYDROLOCKED. I also looked into any court cases filed in the USA and Canada that someone sued a CAI supplier or for that matter an auto manufacture for causing their engine to be HRYDOLOCKED....nope none! I am sure that someone can find a video or facebook posting of some person claiming it happened to them but lacking all the details and facts and more speculating the conclusion rather giving supporting information for a factual conclusion?
And we could argue each one of them but these incidences are still so RARE why would we? LOL
moving on......
While it is questionable of most true gains from a CAI even when using a Chassis DYNO for DATA acquisition. because of these small possible increases and most CAIs do not require and ECI/EFI Performance calibration which any engine performance upgrade to achieve the best new output from the engine be done , many a CAI get a bad review from people on forums and other media sources. Just keep in mind that these reports are from limit experience based on only trying one maybe 2 CAI and no real quality testing using controls standards for repeatable results and conclusion based on DATA.
CAI do IMHO have the "KOOL factor in looks and and most will increase the air sound going through the intake system which for some of us is also the "KOOL" factor! .
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Lou B
I see you live not only a few hours from me but in your town and FRESNO CALIFORNIA there are many PERFORMANCE shops that you can call them and talked to them what their opinion are about the use of a CAI on your MAZDA!
Hydrolocking an engine because of the use of a aftermarket CAI
SO RARE a true happening, it is almost not really even worth mentioning ........but now on this forum as well as a few other forums on different platforms it occasionally gets inaccurate or incomplete information posted...
CAI's provided by most better manufactures and suppliers such as AEM, K&N CorkSport etc,,(can also contact them direct on this subject for there professional opinion this subject) when used as designed I am not ( have sold CAI and aftermarket performance air cleaners since 1977) aware anywhere in the world their CAI was directly proven a cause of HYDROLOCKING an engine. Besides technically speaking most designs are actually less likely even if you submerge the engine to Hydrolock an engine vs a stock intake which would actually act somewhat as a container to hold water longer which theatrically could cause an engine to Hydrolock. (for though who really know what I am getting at ...you are smiling and know what I am talking about
) Then there is that good old THROTLE BODY and its position relative to the required flow of air for the engines speed ....or maybe in a theatrical submerging we could even call the TB a water flow control valve
hehehe..... I diligently looked for an absolute factual posting that a aftermarket CAI from a quality manufacture and supplier anywhere in the world when their product was used as designed not for competitive off road racing or a clement catastrophe causing someone to drive through a flooded area submerging part or all of their engine while it is running directly causing the engine to become HYDROLOCKED. I also looked into any court cases filed in the USA and Canada that someone sued a CAI supplier or for that matter an auto manufacture for causing their engine to be HRYDOLOCKED....nope none! I am sure that someone can find a video or facebook posting of some person claiming it happened to them but lacking all the details and facts and more speculating the conclusion rather giving supporting information for a factual conclusion?And we could argue each one of them but these incidences are still so RARE why would we? LOL
moving on......
While it is questionable of most true gains from a CAI even when using a Chassis DYNO for DATA acquisition. because of these small possible increases and most CAIs do not require and ECI/EFI Performance calibration which any engine performance upgrade to achieve the best new output from the engine be done , many a CAI get a bad review from people on forums and other media sources. Just keep in mind that these reports are from limit experience based on only trying one maybe 2 CAI and no real quality testing using controls standards for repeatable results and conclusion based on DATA.
CAI do IMHO have the "KOOL factor in looks and and most will increase the air sound going through the intake system which for some of us is also the "KOOL" factor! .
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________________
Lou B
I see you live not only a few hours from me but in your town and FRESNO CALIFORNIA there are many PERFORMANCE shops that you can call them and talked to them what their opinion are about the use of a CAI on your MAZDA!
Last edited by Callisto; Mar 2, 2020 at 10:59 AM.
Sorry, all Mazda's in recent memory ingest "cold air" for most driving cycles. That and factory intakes are tuned for optimal resonance in the midrange (i.e. better mid-range torque); that's why so many aftermarket intakes lose some torque in the mid RPM ranges and produce a few more ponies up near redline. Unless someone is going to be driving around with the engine bouncing off the rev limiter all day long, they are much better served with a factory intake.
Sorry, all Mazda's in recent memory ingest "cold air" for most driving cycles. That and factory intakes are tuned for optimal resonance in the mid-range (i.e. better mid-range torque); that's why so many aftermarket intakes lose some torque in the mid RPM ranges and produce a few more ponies up near redline. Unless someone is going to be driving around with the engine bouncing off the rev limiter all day long, they are much better served with a factory intake.
might pop on this thread and explain it because heck us "HILLBILLY Kalyfornians that do emission testing have no clue what we are talking about.. LOLThere is some support that some CAIs will produce less power at low engine speeds but then the trade off was improved performance at higher engine speeds. No argument their? But see this is where some posting do not understand how engine performance parts really work. When you choose a engine performance parts the correct way is finding parts that will support the engines power or increases it output at a needed specific engine speed.
Last edited by Callisto; Mar 2, 2020 at 11:11 AM.
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