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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 07:50 PM
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Not in my Mazda, but in fall of '20 I completely replaced the system in my 2020 Nissan Frontier with new RF door speakers front and rear (similar to what you posted above) and new tweeters in the dash. Put in a Pioneer head unit with AA/CP and was able to keep all the OEM functionality (steering wheel controls, back up camera, USB and Aux inputs). I have been really happy with it. Most of the time you need to change the head unit to get serious improvement in sound quality, or as suggested use a line converter to add an external amp to the factory system. The CX-5 is difficult as you really can't effectively swap out the factory system without a lot of work. My Nissan is a '20 model, but basically has the same set up it did since its release in 2005. Double DIN radio which is simple to swap with whatever you want.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 07:55 PM
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[QUOTE=chickdr19;201823]Not in my Mazda, .chickdr19
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^^^ lol^^^

Thats right NOT A MAZDA..

You may want to read what I posted and then confirm with a better-quality Auto Stereo shop about new MAZDA's.


So I will repeat the MAZDA is not like other platforms regarding how they set up the info center and the computer that runs them.


As for your other information if this were a Nissan forum or better an Auto stereo forum, I would be last in line to comment on your information.

IDK maybe I should use my 1982 Camaro or my 2009 PT Cruiser as an example how to build a stereo system on a New MAZDA (2016 and newer US forum. LOL
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by chickdr19
Not in my Mazda, but in fall of '20 I completely replaced the system in my 2020 Nissan Frontier with new RF door speakers front and rear (similar to what you posted above) and new tweeters in the dash.
No regard for the speaker's specification or speaker placement for sound quality nor what to use for an up graded amplifier? Put in a Pioneer head unit with AA/CP and was able to keep all the OEM functionality (steering wheel controls, back up camera, USB and Aux inputs). I have been really happy with it. Most of the time you need to change the head unit to get serious improvement in sound quality This is absolutely untrue regarding the MADZA head unit. The head unit only delivers the signal to the speakers. The steering well control is run through a computer and not a electrical circuits so the old Nissin is not the same as the MAZA and most interface with the MAZDA newer info and steering wheel command contr control don't work well without some really carefully and checked interfacing. or as suggested use a line converter to add an external amp to the factory system. On newer vehicle's it is not much easier to use the factory head unit and computer control and then try to make a replacement aftermarket head unit work. The CX-5 is difficult as you really can't effectively swap out the factory system without a lot of work. No this is not necessarily true. If the installer is an Audiophile and experienced, it is simply to pick the components and trial and error to achieve the desire sound quality improvement wanted. My Nissan is a '20 model, but basically has the same set up it did since its release in 2005.Your Nissian is not the same as the MAZDA having to do with the stereo and the integration into the info commend center.??? Where in the world did you ever get the information, it was? Double DIN radio which is simple to swap with whatever you want The double DIN is NOT so simple in all situations and again where did you ever get that idea it was. .
Now to the comments of your post referring the comparison between a Nissan stereo system and a OPs MAZDA.

Maybe the ignore feature of this forum may not be working out to well for you...IDK? lol
 

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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
Now to the comments of your post referring the comparison between a Nissan stereo system and a OPs MAZDA.

Maybe the ignore feature of this forum may not be working out to well for you...IDK? lol
You really have serious reading comprehension issues Callisto..... Where did I say ANYWHERE in my post the systems in my Nissan and Mazda were comparable? In fact, I said exactly what you did - the Mazda system is very difficult to upgrade. I don't agree with your comment "No this is not necessarily true. If the installer is an Audiophile and experienced, it is simply (you meant "simple" right?) to pick the components and trial and error to achieve the desire sound quality improvement wanted." Unless there is a company making a custom unit for the CX-5 I don't see anyone being able to upgrade the entire system in a CX-5 as it is so deeply integrated into the car. Do you have an example of a replacement system for the current CX-5? I would think you are better off keeping the stock system and bypassing the factory amp, going to line level inputs and adding an external amp and speakers.

Not sure what your problem is...
 

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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chickdr19
You really have some serious reading comprehension issues Callisto..... Where did I say ANYWHERE in my post the systems were comparable? In fact I said exactly what you did - the Mazda system is very difficult to upgrade. Not sure what your problem is....
Once again you need to read what I posted in bold black letters in response to yours.. "My friend". I did see that you said not my MAZDA so why would you post the example so much as if it were in comparison to a stereo upgrade in a new MAZDA? I suppose it may have been at least in part somewhat helpful to someone on an extreme budget and not really caring as much about the music reproduction quality?? LOL
Mine to your post was a mostly generalized response but with some direct mention to MAZDA. Your assessments and end results while may have suited your lessening musical needs in the non-MAZDA vehicle it was far from the reproduction of what the original compositions of music was intended to be.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chickdr19
Y. I don't agree with your comment "No this is not necessarily true. If the installer is an Audiophile and experienced, it is simply (you meant "simple" right?) to pick the components and trial and error to achieve the desire sound quality improvement wanted." Unless there is a company making a custom unit for the CX-5 I don't see anyone being able to upgrade the entire system in a CX-5 as it is so deeply integrated into the car. Do you have an example of a replacement system for the current CX-5? I would think you are better off keeping the stock system and bypassing the factory amp, going to line level inputs and adding an external amp and speakers.

Not sure what your problem is...
So your are starting off by the GRAMMAR NAZI tactic , which we all know why people do that...
Really so please explain how you measure the air volume in a passenger compartment and then after placement of choice speakers the result playing pink noise and doing an analysis of the sound quality? LOL
Lets not forget the setting controls on many high-end amps that tailer the output frequencies or caps, cross-overs etc. And then there is the gain control that control those same frequencies and, well I could go on but what's the point? LOL . Otherwise, the best any professional can do is "GUESS" by experience what may suit the customer and hope they like the end results?
This again my friend all comes from experience and not just a few casual installs, but complete stereo set ups. The advertised information on most all speakers is really HYPTED up so you as a consumer will buy them.
 

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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chickdr19
I don't see anyone being able to upgrade the entire system in a CX-5 as it is so deeply integrated
I would think you are better off keeping the stock info center stereo control system and bypassing the factory amp, going to line level inputs and adding an external amp and speakers.

Not sure what your problem is...
Your wrong!
You can complete upgrade the sound system and still retain the info center control of the speakers somewhat and all the control over the input signals. But this takes a little trail and error or already done the project and know what components to use to achieve that.
Your partially correct
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 03:40 AM
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I upgraded the sounds in my CX-5 very easily.

Factory MZD connect head unit.
Audiocontrol LC6i controller/converter
4 channel Kenwood amp running 4 x Alpine Type R door speakers - Components up front
Combined 10" sub & amp in the back/boot/trunk.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by grim_reaper
I upgraded the sounds in my CX-5 very easily.

Factory MZD connect head unit.
Audiocontrol LC6i controller/converter
4 channel Kenwood amp running 4 x Alpine Type R door speakers - Components up front
Combined 10" sub & amp in the back/boot/trunk.
The LC6i is magical and a problem solver for sure!!!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grim_reaper
I upgraded the sounds in my CX-5 very easily.

Factory MZD connect head unit.
Audiocontrol LC6i controller/converter
4 channel Kenwood amp running 4 x Alpine Type R door speakers - Components up front
Combined 10" sub & amp in the back/boot/trunk.

I am about to do a very similar setup. Please give me clarity on a few things.

1. Which wires did you use for LC6i input? Was it post-bose amp and did you use the 4doors/2tweeters wires?
2. Did you notice any issues with bass roll-off as you turn volume up? Do you think accubass/LC7i is worth it?
3. If I were to go with LC2i Pro do you think rear speakers would provide good signal for 4 channel amp and sub amp? (rear doors are full-range?)

Thank you so much, any tips are much appreciated.
 
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