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Is it possible to modify steering stiffness?

Old May 21, 2023 | 08:14 AM
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Me and my woman wants to buy a CX5 but the steering on the 2013 we have rented is too stiff for me (I have some health issues). Is there anyway to loosen it up throught the dealer or other ways?

I really hope this is possible
 

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Old May 21, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Welcome to the forum.
Your duplicate thread will either likely be incorporated or removed. It happens somethings when new members join and get use to how to start threads. No worries!
The steering can not be changed and it is likely that the tire pressures are to low.?
the other may be simply what type of tires are being used?
If it were your own MAZDA and not a rental, I would also recommend that the chassis and running gear be inspected just to be sure.

Electrical steering is a little different feel thenm,echanical so you may want to test drive a MAZDA at a dealership and not judge the Mazda by the rental experence?
We all know the stories what some people do to rentals.. HA!
 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 11:06 PM
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There's a chance the Rental car is just beat up in the front end. Your best bet would be to test one that has been owned by a regualr consumer and is being sold at a dealer or privately. Generally Mazda's steering shouldn't be too tight on a CX-5 to the point where it's uncomfortable.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
Welcome to the forum.
Your duplicate thread will either likely be incorporated or removed. It happens somethings when new members join and get use to how to start threads. No worries!
The steering can not be changed and it is likely that the tire pressures are to low.?
the other may be simply what type of tires are being used?
If it were your own MAZDA and not a rental, I would also recommend that the chassis and running gear be inspected just to be sure.

Electrical steering is a little different feel thenm,echanical so you may want to test drive a MAZDA at a dealership and not judge the Mazda by the rental experence?
We all know the stories what some people do to rentals.. HA!
I talked with a Mazda dealer now and he told me the only thing I can do is to increase the tire pressure but that would again lead to the tires getting wearing down faster especially in the middle and it could make it less safe in terms of driving in rain etc. That being said I like the idea of trying to increase the pressure little by little and see if it actually makes it light enough.

We have returned the car now. Im not sure what type of tires it was but I can ask the guy I rented it from. I really want to make this work as I loved that car

Edit: what are your thoughts on increasing the tire pressure to make it easier to steer?
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexmed2002
There's a chance the Rental car is just beat up in the front end. Your best bet would be to test one that has been owned by a regualr consumer and is being sold at a dealer or privately. Generally Mazda's steering shouldn't be too tight on a CX-5 to the point where it's uncomfortable.
I guess it was mostly driving on the highway that was the issue for me when it become really stiff. I asked chatgpt how I can make the steering lighter on a CX5 and this is what it told me. What do you think?To make the steering lighter on a Mazda CX-5, you can try the following methods:
  1. Power Steering Fluid: Check the power steering fluid level in your vehicle. If it's low, top it up with the recommended fluid specified in your owner's manual. Low fluid levels can affect steering responsiveness.
  2. Tire Pressure: Ensure that the tire pressure is set to the manufacturer's recommended specifications. Low tire pressure can increase the effort required to turn the steering wheel. Refer to the sticker on the driver's side door jamb or the owner's manual for the correct tire pressure values.
  3. Wheel Alignment: Improper wheel alignment can cause the steering to feel heavier. Get the wheel alignment checked at a reputable service center and have them adjust it according to the manufacturer's specifications if necessary.
  4. Power Steering Assist Level: Some Mazda CX-5 models have selectable power steering assist levels. Check your vehicle's owner's manual to see if this feature is available. If it is, you may be able to adjust the power steering assist level to a lighter setting.
  5. Electronic Power Steering Calibration: In some cases, the electronic power steering system may need to be recalibrated. This should be done by a qualified mechanic or at an authorized Mazda service center.
  6. Consult a Mechanic: If the above steps don't significantly improve the steering feel, it's advisable to have a professional mechanic inspect your vehicle. There could be an underlying issue with the power steering system or other components that require attention.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 09:27 AM
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You said you rented a 2013. Are you planning to buy a 2013, or something newer? A 10 yr old car could have a myriad of issues with the suspension, so I wouldn't base a decision on buying a CX-5 after one older example. I recommend trying different trims as well. The lower trims use 17" wheels which handle differently from the 19" wheel. Test drive several and find the trim/features you want.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SteelyDan
I talked with a Mazda dealer now and he told me the only thing I can do is to increase the tire pressure but that would again lead to the tires getting wearing down faster especially in the middle and it could make it less safe in terms of driving in rain etc. That being said I like the idea of trying to increase the pressure little by little and see if it actually makes it light enough.

We have returned the car now. Im not sure what type of tires it was but I can ask the guy I rented it from. I really want to make this work as I loved that car

Edit: what are your thoughts on increasing the tire pressure to make it easier to steer?
I am VERY SURPRUISED that that suggest was made? You DO NOT INCREASE the tire pressure to compensate for the steering feel! WOW! unbelievable! That person has NO CONCEPT how tires work!!!
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 03:21 PM
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I believe if the steering feel too stiff there is something wrong with the vehicle. I would just find another vehicle. Mazda would no make a vehicle with steering that is too stiff.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 03:36 PM
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I believe if the steering feel too stiff there is something wrong with the vehicle. I would just find another vehicle. Mazda would no make a vehicle with steering that is too stiff.
When electric steering assist first came out decades ago many posted like you. Now that is more seen in the industry while there are still complaints it is always from people that are use to hydraulic assisted steering commonly we call that power steering LOL
It was also the same with some platform that have electric hydraulic pumps for the power steering. (see BMW) the number one steering complaint was heavy steering feel. So many thoughts it was a defect. LOL

You personally can debate it all you want but go work in a service shop for 6 months and then return to posting DIY opinions and we will see you change on many subjects.
Having worked on customers complaints with dozens of electrical steering is always the same, yes it is a firming feel comparing hydraulics and if you run lower psi in the tires it feels even heavier. .

But as always if you are concerned have it looked at to be sure.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
When electric steering assist first came out decades ago many posted like you. Now that is more seen in the industry while there are still complaints it is always from people that are use to hydraulic assisted steering commonly we call that power steering LOL
It was also the same with some platform that have electric hydraulic pumps for the power steering. (see BMW) the number one steering complaint was heavy steering feel. So many thoughts it was a defect. LOL

You personally can debate it all you want but go work in a service shop for 6 months and then return to posting DIY opinions and we will see you change on many subjects.
Having worked on customers complaints with dozens of electrical steering is always the same, yes it is a firming feel comparing hydraulics and if you run lower psi in the tires it feels even heavier. .

But as always if you are concerned have it looked at to be sure.
If you don't like the way it feels don't buy it .Life is too short to put up with something you don't like .There are plenty of vehicles that will have a steering feel you like. Steely Dan ,just dont take the song Decan Blues advice . That will make your steering feel strange for sure .
 

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