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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 07:19 PM
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Would be nice if they gave a paper navigation manual anstead of the online version
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve2150
Would be nice if they gave a paper navigation manual anstead of the online version
Yes.
You can also print the online version...
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve2150
Would be nice if they gave a paper navigation manual anstead of the online version
I miss hardcopy manuals in a lot of things, especially computer related ones. Printing the things out is often difficult and the printing takes a lot of time and paper and doesn't fit as well on the bookcase.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by schmieg
I miss hardcopy manuals in a lot of things, especially computer related ones. Printing the things out is often difficult and the printing takes a lot of time and paper and doesn't fit as well on the bookcase.
OMFG you sound like some of the seniors in my neighborhood... rolmao

I have one of these for most all my long term project cars. This one is for the Mazda



 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
OMFG you sound like some of the seniors in my neighborhood... rolmao

I have one of these for most all my long term project cars. This one is for the Mazda

Been there, done that. I still prefer the manuals so I don't have to do the bookbinder's work. I did enough of that updating legal manuals over the years where you have to go through multiple volumes and remove and/or replace individual pages (often in up to hundreds in each volume) every time they come out with updates, usually at least four times annually.

Besides, when the manual is on the computer and it won't boot up, it makes it hard to read.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by schmieg
Been there, done that. I still prefer the manuals so I don't have to do the bookbinder's work. I did enough of that updating legal manuals over the years where you have to go through multiple volumes and remove and/or replace individual pages (often in up to hundreds in each volume) every time they come out with updates, usually at least four times annually.

Besides, when the manual is on the computer and it won't boot up, it makes it hard to read.
I think you misunderstood.... Those binders are all the invoices of parts ,information about the projects I did and every aspect of service work with the exception of detailing and even on that subject I have some information.
As for manuals I do not think there is any member on any forum that has as many published service manuals if it be factory or Chilton's, Haynes, Cymer etc I even have very old school micro Fische with my library at about 100+ dating back to the oldest I own in the 1950's. Most is great for historical value information but now it is mostly a collection. LOL
I still prefer sitting down when i need to research with a book so I can leave it and other open for information and cross reference information then the internet. But I do copy pages from the books to make my topic specific refence binder like big subject materials on forum such as oil, spark plugs service procedure etc. Otherwise, I would not be such a known-it-all NERD lol
The other problem with information on the internet is to fact find you need to research the information to see where it originated from and who what and where the details of empirical facts vs domino effect information simply posted continually without out verification so much so that it becomes a inter calorized as fact instead of BS fiction. I we all read this almost daily on this and all the other forums as well.

I was going to post a few more pictures of my library in my home but realized it is information overload about me personally.

 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 01:35 PM
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The other problem with information on the internet is to fact find you need to research the information to see where it originated from and who what and where the details of empirical facts vs domino effect information simply posted continually without out verification so much so that it becomes a inter calorized as fact instead of BS fiction. I we all read this almost daily on this and all the other forums as well.
So true. And the manufacturers don't make it easier. For instance, there are two different Owner's Manuals on the Jeep Owners' Site for the 2014 Grand Cherokee and they are different. I had to download both and go through them comparing them to the OM in my glove box to see which one applied to my vehicle. There was no distinction online as to what the difference was, but they were different from each other.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 01:38 PM
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Yes.
You can also print the online version...
When I go to 2025 Mazda Owners Manual online when I press on Navigation Manual pdf to print I get the attached response.

 
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve2150
Would be nice if they gave a paper navigation manual anstead of the online version
My 2020 actually came with a separate booklet for the navigation system.
 
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