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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:07 AM
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Hello, I just bought 2012 cx5 with 160 000 km on the clock, I think that ATF has never been done before. Do you recommend me to do it now, can it hurt transmission in any way or it can only be better? Should I do only drain and refill, not flushing? Should I change filter as well?
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 03:00 PM
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For the 2012 automatic there is no change just a recommended check every 20,000km (add if needed).
For the Skyactive auto transmissions the fluid according to the manual is supposed to be "lifelong" you just add if needed.
That said, and this is my "opinion", for all my cars that had automatic transmissions, whenever I did change the ATF fluid, I also did a full flush and filter replacement.
I only noticed improvement in one my many previous vehicles (a Jeep Commando) but the AT fluid obviously really filthy.
For my many other vehicles I really can't say I ever noticed a difference or if it was ever really needed or prolonged the life of any transmission.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by milijas14
Hello, I just bought 2012 cx5 with 160 000 km on the clock, I think that ATF has never been done before. Do you recommend me to do it now, can it hurt transmission in any way or it can only be better? Should I do only drain and refill, not flushing? Should I change filter as well?
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At that miles and the unknown service history at least a filter and pan fluid service are prudent.
This will at least give a slight clue what is going on and then you can decide on a Full Service Fluid Replacement from a Service shop. I do not recommend DIY or a transmission with that high a mile to do the service without first getting the oil analyzed (even a service shop). If there is a lot of clutch material indicated in the oil analysis, then it would not be a good idea for anything except a basic filter and pan fluid change.

The basic lifetime or none service transmission came to the industry assuming the consumer would replace their vehicle every aprox. 5 year on average with a brand new vehicle @12miles per year . This way they could advertise such things as "Don't worry be happy" your transmission needs no service... "one less" to worry about. LOL
 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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Hello everyone,could somebody help me too to make a right decision in this situation?Own Mazda CX-5 2019 51600 miles and never done before any ATF flushing or refilling on it before.Should i do that and if yes should it be full flushing or just refilling with filter replacement?
P.s.Don't have any problems with transmission right now.
 

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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerim
Hello everyone,could somebody help me too to make a right decision in this situation?Own Mazda CX-5 2019 51600 miles and never done before any ATF flushing or refilling on it before.Should i do that and if yes should it be full flushing or just refilling with filter replacement?
P.s.Don't have any problems with transmission right now.
wow same basic question a couple days apart different members and both new to the forum?

A filter and pan fluid service are prudent.
This will at least give a slight clue what is going on and then you can decide on a Full Service Fluid Replacement from a Service shop.

See info transmission:
Blackstone Laboratories (blackstone-labs.com)


P.S. most never get symptom's or do but disregard them because they don't think it a problem and often have stated to me after the transmission has problems "Didn't have any problems with transmission right now."
ASE
 

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Callisto will probably have more mechanical insight reply.
I can tell you a proper "transmission flush" requires high pressure equipment that most DIY folks do not have.

 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobstah
Callisto will probably have more mechanical insight reply.
I can tell you a proper "transmission flush" requires high pressure equipment that most DIY folks do not have.
what Lobstah said!!!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
wow same basic question a couple days apart different members and both new to the forum?

A filter and pan fluid service are prudent.
This will at least give a slight clue what is going on and then you can decide on a Full Service Fluid Replacement from a Service shop.

See info transmission:
Blackstone Laboratories (blackstone-labs.com)


P.S. most never get symptom's or do but disregard them because they don't think it a problem and often have stated to me after the transmission has problems "Didn't have any problems with transmission right now."
ASE
Thx for the information,but unfortunately in my region we don't have such a service like laboratory analysis of transmission fluid.
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Callisto will probably have more mechanical insight reply.
I can tell you a proper "transmission flush" requires high pressure equipment that most DIY folks do not have.
Sure, that's clear for me,anyway if i will do that i will do that in professional service which have all needed equipment for it,that's for sure.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerim
Thx for the information,but unfortunately in my region we don't have such a service like laboratory analysis of transmission fluid.

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soooooo you don't have mail service? LOL
You send the sample to the lab and the results are sent to your email
 
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Callisto
soooooo you don't have mail service? LOL
You send the sample to the lab and the results are sent to your email
Not a good idea if you are living faaaaaaaar away from a lab
 
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