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Oh6sixXx 06-03-2007 06:29 PM

air intake?
 
what type of air intake systems are you running on your 6's? iv been looking all over and found tons of them, buti noticed a spot on them that looks like something fits into it like a BOV or a senser or something...they all have this spot on them. also i dont want the one that goes all the way downbehind the bumper, id be afraid of water intake in the rain.. i saw ones made byaem, ingen,k&n and some other companies i never heard of...what should i get??

virgin1 06-04-2007 09:10 AM

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They all have that mounting flange, but it's not for a BOV.It's for remounting the MAF sensor... a very necessary part of the fuel injection system.
Secondly, if you don't want a CAI (cold air intake,) you should be looking for an SRI (short ram intake.)
From everything I've read about these, if you're going to do this you should deal w/an established, reputable company (MazdaSpeed, AEM, Injen, etc.) because the location of the MAF sensor is critical in avoiding CEL's and other performance problems. If the proper research and testing haven't been done, and/or you buy a knock-off, you are asking for a whole lotta' trouble.

Oh6sixXx 06-04-2007 04:44 PM

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hey thanks for the info. i will look intothe SRI setupsand see whats out there. i would definatly stay brand name. its kinda like a must to me with performance parts like that. again thanks. Nick

atoznr 06-17-2007 07:15 PM

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I just put on a CAI on my 06 M6s. I live in Northern Ohio and am not worried about the water. The full CAI is better to get anyways because with the SRI's you are pulling in hot air in the engine bay. As far as pulling cool air in you would be better off with the stock set up as the air it pulls is cooler.

You can also get sir filter socks for the wetter months which prevents water from being sucked in.

I paid $250(?) from mazda6online.com. Phenominal price.

atoznr 06-17-2007 07:18 PM

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sorry, I didn't say what type, it is a Mazdaspeed CAI, relatively easy to put on. Directions were easy to follow. Dealership wanted $250 to install. 2-3 hours labor they said. I took me about 2 hours

dentinger 06-17-2007 08:35 PM

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honestly, i would suggest a K&N CAI,
it can be used as either a CAI, or a SRI, you just take out the lower pipe to use it as a SRI, altho it is slightly more expensive...

im running a Fujita intake right now.... had it for about a week now, and no problem so far... haha, it sounds like a turbo spooling up at higher rpms

virgin1 07-18-2007 06:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: dentinger
honestly, i would suggest a K&N CAI,
it can be used as either a CAI, or a SRI, you just take out the lower pipe to use it as a SRI, altho it is slightly more expensive...
Slightly, Gracie?I blame K&N for driving CAI/SRIprices up in general. It's a lot of $$$ ($350!!!!) for some tubing, a welded flange and a universal air filter... w/a nominal 5hp (+/-) gain, but I agree that they seem to be among the best.


TheProdigy09 11-18-2007 03:22 PM

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I was worried about water getting into my CAI too before i did some real research... If you get a reputable brand (AEM, MazdaSpeed, Injen) and not some built in ur backyard **** made outta PVC pipe(which by the way, you CAN do), then they should offer a Bypass valve for the kit... I know AEM offers it for my RX8, so i dont know why the 6 would be any different

virgin1 11-18-2007 03:26 PM

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WOW!!! Way to bring back the dead threads, Prodigy!!;) At least that's what somebody always says to me when I do the same. :D :D :D


ssdspec 12-02-2007 10:41 PM

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K&N for the win especially if they have a CARB approval. Hey I live in California what do you expect. You can't modify **** over here. (legally)

Fevered 03-17-2008 11:00 PM

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lol, i just wish i could find something for my 323, i love that little car, its funny to race people in cus they think u cant do **** then BAM!! zoom zoom motha BLEEP LOL!!1!1 but i got a 1988 323 hatchback and i cant find a CAI to fit it

virgin1 03-18-2008 05:45 PM

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Told ya' before Fevered, if you want one that bad, and I don't really know why, you canbuild one using universal CAI parts. Everything is available, you just have to figure out whatyou need (straight pieces, bends, hose connectors, clamps, filter, etc...) and connect the dots!
A CAI is only good for a couple a' HP on a good day anyway, so spending all that time and money isn't really gonna get you where you wanna be, but it can be done, I'm sure. An exhaust would get you further into the HP range though. If I were you, I'd start by spending my $$$ there.



TGM_6 03-19-2008 06:08 PM

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I just want to add that when adding any intake (whether it is SRI or CAI) will potentially harm your vehicle in the long run. This can be prevented, though, if you modify your fuel trim ratio properly. I cannot remember the end-results from having your vehicle run for extended periods of time with lean fuel...

Anyway, with a CAI your vehicle won't be harmed all that badly in the long-term. it's more if you are sucking in a hell of alot more air than what is needed (such as having a CAI and an optimized throttle body, etc).

eurorx@msn.com 03-22-2008 04:34 PM

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Hey -TGM- I recently had the MazdaFactory CAI system installed on my 2008Mazda3 sGrand Touring and I was skeptical about extra wear and tear on the engine just as you stated . Nobody seemed to think that if it was a factory Mazda part installed by Mazda that it couldnt possibly do harm . Granted its not the end all of horsepower but it does tend to deliver just that extra little nudge that I sometimes need when passing. Its not loud and runs smooth . Do you think that the 2008 equipment installed at the dealer is the safest bet ?? They assured me it was otherwise why would mazda include it on with the factoy warranty ??? there's NO other mods, like optomized throttle body or anything like that . It seems that Mazda would have addressed the isssue of the cold air correcting itself via the ecu and making the proper air/fuel mixture ?? Wouldnt you say that Its a safe bet that Im OK with this minor upgrade ??? Thanks Much

eurorx@msn.com 03-22-2008 04:43 PM

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Hey V1- That sounds like good advice , I will add that if your car is still under warranty like mine , the CAI , if installed by Mazda gets included right along with your warranty , but if you "do it yourself" its only 12 months or 12K miles !!! So based on that I was sold on the Mazdaspeed since they have tested their engines more than anybody else and here in Calif it needs to be Carb spec'd which many of the smaller aftermarket companys dont have the money to get done!

virgin1 03-22-2008 05:13 PM

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I'm sure the ECU has enough range to adjust the fuel/air ratio as much as is needed for a CAI, or even a CAI and exhaust.
Bigger valves, advancing the camshaft timing, opening up the ports and putting on a bigger intake manifold & TB would almost certainly cause an excessive long term lean condition, as it would probably take the ECU out of it's normaloperating range. That would require a redo of the fuel map, but I seriously doubt a few bolt-ons would require that drastic a measure.
I'd think Mazda would know that and either not sell the performance parts it does or have a new fuel map ready and available to dealers to flash the ECU with, don't you?


davedunc 03-22-2008 06:38 PM

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i myself have been looking for a CAI. I live in kansas though and we get some nasty rain so I decided to get the KandN intake. It looks like I can switch it from CAI to SRI when needed. And if your engine ever has problems, just put back on the stock filter before you take it in, warrenty intact.

eurorx@msn.com 03-24-2008 02:12 PM

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V1- Yes my common sense tells me the same , if it were in any way harmful it wouldnt be sold or installed at the dealer. I know with Subaru some of the dealers wouldnt even install the OEM h.p. parts because they didnt want the liability and that made me uncomfortable , thinking that the dealers arent being supported by the MF. I am having my first experience here with Mazda and it appears that Mazda does quite a bit of aftermarket testing and is involved heavily in stock racing events around the country ( of course stock with minor mod's like CAI etc.) so they appear to have things pretty well ironed out. BUt in reply to Davedunc- Why do you feel that K&N would be superior to Mazdaspeed when it comes to foul weather . I asked about that and on my new 08- 2.3 wagon the CAI has a heat shield and is tucked away nicely down in the lower right cavity of the engine compartment , impervious to H2O contamination ? Or are you just going with K&N because you find it to be a superior product ?


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