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Any Idea what these rims came off of? or Model of the rims?
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It said MazdaSpeed on it. It has a 1 1/2 inch lip. 16 inch. I don't know the offset. These are suppose to be super rare and JDM. I think they would look of on an FC. It has a VIP-ish look to it. Any ideas where these rims came from or the model of it?
Attachment 5184 Thanks for your help. |
I would also guess them to fit an RX7, probably an FC model. The fact that they do have MazdaSpeed clearly embossed on them makes me think that they are a Mazdaspeed dealer accessory, but not necessarily exclusive JDM. 1) Are they forged wheels, or cast? 2)How much do they weigh? 3) And how wide are they. All this info may help at least identitfy what they would fit. As for the offset, look on the back of the wheel to see if it is embossed near the center hub or bolt pattern. It will often have the letters "et" in front of or behind a set of numbers. |
Originally Posted by virgin1
(Post 120454)
I would also guess them to fit an RX7, probably an FC model. The fact that they do have MazdaSpeed clearly embossed on them makes me think that they are a Mazdaspeed dealer accessory, but not necessarily exclusive JDM. 1) Are they forged wheels, or cast? 2)How much do they weigh? 3) And how wide are they. All this info may help at least identitfy what they would fit. As for the offset, look on the back of the wheel to see if it is embossed near the center hub or bolt pattern. It will often have the letters "et" in front of or behind a set of numbers. One of the member on rx7club said that these rims are rare even for JDM. |
because of the HPO and the 16 inch size, they are more than likely ray's mazdaspeeds for the nb miata. i have heard about them, but never seen them.
ray's ms-01's for the FC http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...llhXgko3vQ&t=1 ray's ms-02's for the FD http://rupewrecht.com/forsale/fs_ms_...17x9single.jpg there are no images for your wheels though. since they are labeled mazdaspeed, they are genuine factory equipment for a mazdaspeed and, in-turn, made by rays. it was 2001 before mazda used another company to build a rim for them. at that point, they used enkei under their smaller company name, racinghart. those are not enkei rims, i can guarantee that. the ray's miata wheels are the only thing missing here. that has to be what they are. |
With a +50mm offset, it almost sounds like they should fit a FWD car. I mean that's pretty extreme. Generally speaking, RWD cars have a much more positive offset. Was the RX7 member sure they WERE JDM, or was he/she assuming so because you posted they you had heard they might be? Personally speaking (re: my opinion): until recently I was never too crazy about the factory alloy offering that Mazda was using. And these don't do much for me either, from a style perspective. Always so flat looking and bland. In '03 when the 6 series cars came out, and in '04 with the 3 series, they started showing a bit more style, IMO. But again, how much do they weigh? If they are forged they should be quite lightweight. But frankly, they look like a low pressure casting and are laible to be quite heavy. Based on what you've said (size, bolt pattern & offset,) they should fit a modern 3 series perfectly. |
Originally Posted by virgin1
(Post 120485)
With a +50mm offset, it almost sounds like they should fit a FWD car. I mean that's pretty extreme. Generally speaking, RWD cars have a much more positive offset. Was the RX7 member sure they WERE JDM, or was he/she assuming so because you posted they you had heard they might be? Personally speaking (re: my opinion): until recently I was never too crazy about the factory alloy offering that Mazda was using. And these don't do much for me either, from a style perspective. Always so flat looking and bland. In '03 when the 6 series cars came out, and in '04 with the 3 series, they started showing a bit more style, IMO. But again, how much do they weigh? If they are forged they should be quite lightweight. But frankly, they look like a low pressure casting and are laible to be quite heavy. Based on what you've said (size, bolt pattern & offset,) they should fit a modern 3 series perfectly. |
Originally Posted by wsoape281
(Post 120475)
because of the HPO and the 16 inch size, they are more than likely ray's mazdaspeeds for the nb miata. i have heard about them, but never seen them.
ray's ms-01's for the FC http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...llhXgko3vQ&t=1 ray's ms-02's for the FD http://rupewrecht.com/forsale/fs_ms_...17x9single.jpg there are no images for your wheels though. since they are labeled mazdaspeed, they are genuine factory equipment for a mazdaspeed and, in-turn, made by rays. it was 2001 before mazda used another company to build a rim for them. at that point, they used enkei under their smaller company name, racinghart. those are not enkei rims, i can guarantee that. the ray's miata wheels are the only thing missing here. that has to be what they are. |
Well after completing an extensive online search using Madaspeed wheels, Mazda alloy wheels, Mazda alloys and JDM specific Mazda wheels as my search on both Yahoo and Google, spanning some 900-1000 pics I could find nothing. Some similar, but nothing exact. Most were newer styles. Some had nothing to do with wheels at all, while others were duplicate pictures. Short of suggesting that these are some backstreet Chinese knockoffs, I don't know what to think. |
Why would anyone waste their time on making these knock off rims?
This is what one of the member thought about the wheels. What Mazdaspeed rims are these? - RX7Club.com Someone from japan is auctioning these wheels. £Â£·£¸¡ù£Í£Á£Ú£Ä£Á£Ó£Ð£Å£Å£Ä¢££±£¶¥¤¥ó¥Á¡ß£·£Ê¢££´ ËÜ¢£ - Yahoo!¥ª¡¼¥¯¥·¥ç¥ó I can't read Japanese so I have no clue what they are saying in the auction. I tried typing in B78 mazdaspeed, there was nothing on it. Besides a picture of the Bongo. I don't know. They might be knock offs, or they might just be super rare rims like the member from RX7Club mentioned, "it's even rare for JDM" Maybe I should send in a picture to mazdaspeed and have them authenticate it. Any links to Mazdaspeed? |
Originally Posted by virgin1
(Post 120485)
But again, how much do they weigh? If they are forged they should be quite lightweight. But frankly, they look like a low pressure casting and are laible to be quite heavy. Based on what you've said (size, bolt pattern & offset,) they should fit a modern 3 series perfectly. |
Originally Posted by translation
This B78 ☆ MAZDASPEED ■ 16 ■ インチ × 7J ■ 4
This B78 ☆ MAZDASPEED ■ 16 ■ インチ × 7J ■ 4 Set of Alloy Wheels ★ 4 stars <Product Description> Used product MAZDASPEED 16-inch rim width: 7J Offset: 50 PCD: 114.3 - Hub hole diameter of 5: 67mm Please examine your own vehicle adaptive. Other models ※, please note that the model year subject to individual differences. No accessories other than photographs. (Such as nuts and bolts-only special tool) is only four to Sell wheel. (The price of the set of 4) Now reading the thread in the correct context, it makes more sense. As far as copies are concerned, I don't know why someone would go through all the trouble to make knock-offs. I will say that 60 Minutes did a story about 2 yrs ago, about just that subject. There is a Huge black market in China making almost anything. They had done a brand new BMW 5-series that looked exactly like the real thing. It was said that it drove NOTHING like the real thing but was so good visually as to fool almost anyone. And that was just the largest example they used. *EDIT* 15lbs is quite light and they might be forged, but they might not. Look for full machining vs. any rough casting, especially on the back of the wheel. Of course forged wheels are known to be very light and very strong compared to cast wheels. The metal is usually thinner, but denser than casting. However, my 17" Kosei's are low pressure cast then shot peened (a poor man's forging process to add some of the strength of a forged wheel,) and they only weigh around 14lbs each. Then there are the Enkei RPF-1's that in a 17" size weigh in @ just 15.2lbs ea. They might also be a hybrid wheel. The outer rim being forged while the inner center is cast then the two joined together. |
Thanks Virgin1 your help is very much appreciated. And as for the Chinese imitation of the BMW story. I found that very funny. It's funny how they can imitate the look but can not imitate the way it drives. I'm was surprised to hear that story haha. I did a little search about that and came found out that they were also able to make RICE!!! taste and look EXACTLY like it out of nylon and plastic.
With all the are able to do, its a mystery on why can't they just build something great. And as for my set of rims (in which i do not need) how much should i sell it for? I don't want to over priced them. |
Good Lord, I don't have a clue. Some further research might be needed here to not get ripped off, or give them away. Perhaps follow that auction and see what they bring? You would have to do a money exchange converter to see what they might be worth here. Or, post them on an eBay like auction site. Set a reserve @ say, $100, or $200 and see what happens. I see similar looking wheels on big pickup trucks and tall cars (22"-26" wheels) these days, but of course they are all bling and chrome plated, and chances are these wouldn't fit any of those vehicles anyway. They are not to my tastes either way. As far as the helping you is concerned, I did try, but I think you may have gotten more/better info from your friend on RX7 Club. Sorry I failed..... :( |
the ray's ms-01's are the most sought after and they go for between $800 and $1500 with all of the center caps and the original gold paint intact. average price tends to float around $1100.
ray's ms-02's are less sought after but more rare. they usually go for about $100 less than the 01's. those are RWD rims though. yours will probably be somewhere in the $700-900 range just because of the original mazdaspeed equipment stigma. if you can find some documentation on them and find someone who is building up a 626, you can get the top of the market. people go nuts for JDM stuff. |
Originally Posted by virgin1
(Post 120522)
As far as the helping you is concerned, I did try, but I think you may have gotten more/better info from your friend on RX7 Club. Sorry I failed..... :( |
Originally Posted by wsoape281
(Post 120526)
the ray's ms-01's are the most sought after and they go for between $800 and $1500 with all of the center caps and the original gold paint intact. average price tends to float around $1100.
ray's ms-02's are less sought after but more rare. they usually go for about $100 less than the 01's. those are RWD rims though. yours will probably be somewhere in the $700-900 range just because of the original mazdaspeed equipment stigma. if you can find some documentation on them and find someone who is building up a 626, you can get the top of the market. people go nuts for JDM stuff. Thanks for the info. I don't think finding documentation on them will ever happen haha, it was hard enough finding pictures of it. I'll see what I can do though. Thanks again! |
Originally Posted by tuanville
(Post 120538)
Your response and opinion was very much helpful and appreciated. You don't have to feel bad LUL!
Well, thank you Sir. That is a very gentlemanly thing to say. Best of luck finding someone that wants these and will offer you a fair price for them. Let us know how it works out for you, OK? |
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