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Old 09-22-2018, 11:30 AM
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My mazda tribute leaks oil but on top of the engine where you put the oil in. No oil leaks under the car and i burn oil quickly. I cant make any sense of this. Can you?
 
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Which engine? Got a picture?

Oil up top often come out of the rocker cover gasket(s) as they are oil-sealing and high up. Burning oil sounds a concern, does she puff oil after a downhill run when you push on the gas at the bottom? If so its valve stem oil seals...if not then possibly rings but a compression test would confirm that.
 
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Which engine? Got a picture?

Oil up top often come out of the rocker cover gasket(s) as they are oil-sealing and high up. Burning oil sounds a concern, does she puff oil after a downhill run when you push on the gas at the bottom? If so its valve stem oil seals...if not then possibly rings but a compression test would confirm that.
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:29 PM
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I have the same issue, a burning odor, and some smoke, but only today did I see wet oil. I had gunky build up, that I wiped off. 2003 Tribute DX 2.0 4cyl 5 speed.
 
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IM HAVING A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE! I just bought an 06 tribute manual 2.3l. Runs amazing 100k miles. I drove it up to Minnesota from Tennessee. Checked the oil halfway and had nothing on the dipstick. I put 2 qts in and it was full. A week later I checked the oil and and it barely shows on the dipstick. Btw the oil is pitch black so it needs to be changed bad. I got under the car and see no sign of leakage the bottom of the engine and engine as a whole seems dry as a bone on the outside except on top of the valve cover. The engine bay is shiny with misted oil. I investigated a little more today and noticed my hood sound dampener was soaked with oil. It has to be somehow leaking out the top... the car doesnt smoke either and exhaust smells normal.
 
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:31 PM
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IM HAVING A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE! I just bought an 06 tribute manual 2.3l. Runs amazing 100k miles. I drove it up to Minnesota from Tennessee. Checked the oil halfway and had nothing on the dipstick. I put 2 qts in and it was full. A week later I checked the oil and and it barely shows on the dipstick. Btw the oil is pitch black so it needs to be changed bad. I got under the car and see no sign of leakage the bottom of the engine and engine as a whole seems dry as a bone on the outside except on top of the valve cover. The engine bay is shiny with misted oil. I investigated a little more today and noticed my hood sound dampener was soaked with oil. It has to be somehow leaking out the top... the car doesnt smoke either and exhaust smells normal.
Check any breathers/pipes on the top of the rocker cover, sounds like one is allowing oil spray mist under pressure out of the rocker area. If the rocker is pressurised it can cause both oil spray leakage under the hood and to force oil from the top of the engine down the valve guides past the seals giving high oil consumption...this might be the case as if you really had 2 its in oil mist under the hood it should be positively dripping...
 
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Check any breathers/pipes on the top of the rocker cover, sounds like one is allowing oil spray mist under pressure out of the rocker area. If the rocker is pressurised it can cause both oil spray leakage under the hood and to force oil from the top of the engine down the valve guides past the seals giving high oil consumption...this might be the case as if you really had 2 its in oil mist under the hood it should be positively dripping...

From what Iím reading itís common for your Mazda to swallow 1-2 qts of oil per 1-2k miles if your pcv hose is collapsed or your pcv valve is stuck open which happens all the time (often these issues go hand in hand).Pretty annoying. The more annoying part is itís a pain in the *** to replace bc itís under the intake manifold and thereís no way to get to it without removing the manifold. On top of this that means every 70-100k miles you need to replace both the hose and valve to prevent this. This issue is common with any 2.3l Mazda engine including the Ford Fusion, focus, Mazda 3,5,6. I will try to link another thread where a guy with a Mazda 3 was having this oil leak issue(basically your car is eating oil with no leaks or symptoms or engine light and it can cause oil mist in your engine bay) and said after doing the work he was no longer having oil consumption issues.

This being said, I am looking at some solutions to prevent the new hose from collapsing. Iím hoping this will help the hose last much longer. Also, iím not sure the recommendation for oil type, but iím Going to run full synth. This should prevent sludge buildup within the pcv allowing these components to last much longer.

Iím thinking a spring just the right size would be flixible enough to contour the molded hose and provide more structure. Iím going to check a few places and see what I can find. If anyone has any other suggestions or advice feel free to post.
 
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Also, I replaced the valve cover gaskets the other day(which were almost as hard as abs plastic). There was no blockage in the valve cover ventilation to the intake. I was hoping that’s where the pcv was like it is on most Toyota’s, but instead I was kicked in the ***** after finding out the actual location.

Keep in mind this vehicle only has 100k miles. However I suspect it sat for a long time. it was a tow behind vehicle for an rv.
 

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Sounds like you've found the source, agree a spring internal to the hose is a good way of preventing collapse.
 
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