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santa6 May 24, 2011 08:57 PM

P0421!?!?!?!?!?!
 
If you recognize my post name you might know I have put $6000 into a car I paid $5000 for and is now worth about $3000. This Milly now has all new Cats(a year ago), all new timing system(a year ago), all new plugs(the correct NGK plugs), 3 new coils, 2 new axles, one new front sway bar, new trans filter and pan gasket, new oil cooler seal, new ABV vent & vacuum solenoids and probably some other items I can't remember.

I am currently working through getting the A/C working again and my son drives it home from work tonight(it's his car) and the @#%^%$#@ CEL is back on - I think my heart stopped for several seconds.

First - if you're a Mazda employee out there - .........never mind.

It now has the P0421 code for "Bank 1 warm up catalyst below threshold". There is no way in #@^#@^ hell that I am spending a dime on more cats. Could this be a bad sensor somewhere? The car seems to run fine with no misfire at all.

When I had these two pre cats replaced in June of 2009, I paid $1,600 + for the two parts(no labor in that number). Any chance there is a good warranty on these parts?




Keninn, tell me it's something simple - please. I just read in another post that a Mazda bulletin TSB 01-003/01 says something about sensitive O2 sensors. Given that there is only about 10,000 miles on these new catalytic converters could it be a sensor problem?

keninn May 25, 2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by santa6 (Post 119367)
If you recognize my post name you might know I have put $6000 into a car I paid $5000 for and is now worth about $3000. This Milly now has all new Cats(a year ago), all new timing system(a year ago), all new plugs(the correct NGK plugs), 3 new coils, 2 new axles, one new front sway bar, new trans filter and pan gasket, new oil cooler seal, new ABV vent & vacuum solenoids and probably some other items I can't remember.

I am currently working through getting the A/C working again and my son drives it home from work tonight(it's his car) and the @#%^%$#@ CEL is back on - I think my heart stopped for several seconds.

First - if you're a Mazda employee out there - .........never mind.

It now has the P0421 code for "Bank 1 warm up catalyst below threshold". There is no way in #@^#@^ hell that I am spending a dime on more cats. Could this be a bad sensor somewhere? The car seems to run fine with no misfire at all.

When I had these two pre cats replaced in June of 2009, I paid $1,600 + for the two parts(no labor in that number). Any chance there is a good warranty on these parts?




Keninn, tell me it's something simple - please. I just read in another post that a Mazda bulletin TSB 01-003/01 says something about sensitive O2 sensors. Given that there is only about 10,000 miles on these new catalytic converters could it be a sensor problem?

there is a pretty stiff warranty on cats. fed mandated. i think it's like 50k/5 yr? were these genuine cats?

santa6 May 25, 2011 11:10 AM

Warranty
 

Originally Posted by keninn (Post 119382)
there is a pretty stiff warranty on cats. fed mandated. i think it's like 50k/5 yr? were these genuine cats?


Yes, according to the receipt from the Mazda dealer that did the work, they were genuine Mazda parts.

santa6 May 25, 2011 11:21 AM

Warranty
 

Originally Posted by keninn (Post 119382)
there is a pretty stiff warranty on cats. fed mandated. i think it's like 50k/5 yr? were these genuine cats?


Yes, according to the receipt from the Mazda dealer that did the work, they were genuine Mazda parts. Just called the dealer - warranty is straight 12 mon/12,000 miles, even for cats. Their price for new pre-cat is $846.72.

santa6 May 25, 2011 11:23 AM

Sensor
 
I won't be spending that kind of money anymore on this car. Is it worth a try to change out a sensor, if so, which one(s)?

keninn May 25, 2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by santa6 (Post 119391)
I won't be spending that kind of money anymore on this car. Is it worth a try to change out a sensor, if so, which one(s)?

check your pm first


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