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re626 Oct 7, 2009 11:12 AM

Air-Fuel mixture too rich problem
 
Hi, I would like to ask if somebody could help.
The engine is shutting off due to the air-fuel mixture has been to rich. The car is Mazda 626.

Hoping for your kind response. Thanks.

hixx Oct 7, 2009 05:36 PM

Need more info. What year and size engine? It will not idle or dies while driving on the highway? How did you determine it was running too rich?

virgin1 Oct 7, 2009 06:29 PM


He has a "MAZDA 626, 1993, AUTO" based on his last post... 05-13-2007, 03:39 AM.
But yes, how was it determined that it is running too rich?
Might a wild and uninformed guess be the O2 sensor, hixx? WhaddoUthink? It being a '93 I'm guessing its never had a new one and the car probably has 200k+ miles on the clock.

hixx Oct 7, 2009 06:57 PM

It could be but it depends on what he means when he says it runs so rich it causes it to quit running. It might cause it to die at idle but i would lean toward the MAF or torn intake boot. It being that old it could be tons of things. It might have jumped time or have a bad coil/distributor,plug wires etc. Possibly a restricted exhaust. Pretty much limitless on the possibilities without more info.

virgin1 Oct 8, 2009 03:31 AM


Did the '93's have MAF sensors then?
I thought of the torn intake boot, but also thought that would tend to make it run lean?
Bad coil/bad wire. Good guesses.
And you're right!! That old and anything might be up with it.


virgin1 Oct 8, 2009 03:31 AM


Did the '93's have MAF sensors then?
I thought of the torn intake boot, but also thought that would tend to make it run lean?
Bad coil/bad wire. Good guesses.
And you're right!! That old and anything might be up with it.


hixx Oct 8, 2009 06:47 AM

Yea 93 was the first year the 626 used a MAF. A torn boot would cause a lean condition but could cause it to die. Not really sure about his symptoms though so throwing out common issues.

re626 Oct 9, 2009 11:42 AM

Hi guys, yes it's still the same Mazda 626 Auto '93.
Regarding the too-rich observation, this is the what happened.

First symptom is hard starting. So I replaced following:
-throttle body (surplus)
-distributor assembly (surplus)
-spark plugs (brand new)
However, same results were observed.

I replaced then the fuel pump (brand new). After replacing the fuel pump, the car now starts easily and smoothly but after a few minutes (approx. 2-3 min.) you will notice that idle becomes rough until it shuts off. You can then smell the gasoline coming out of the muffler.

I tried to remove the spark plugs and noticed that it is wet with gas.
That is why I mentioned that it is too rich.

By the way, I consulted a mechanic, he said that the problem is the computer box. What do you think?

Hope this provides key information.

Thanks.

re626 Oct 9, 2009 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by hixx (Post 99476)
Need more info. What year and size engine? It will not idle or dies while driving on the highway? How did you determine it was running too rich?

Hi, engine size is 2.0. Thanks.

re626 Oct 9, 2009 11:50 AM

Hi again, may I kindly ask what is MAF and O2 sensor? I am not familiar with these.
Thanks.


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