RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/12/2007 10:08:40 AM
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mazdapilot
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At 10,000 miles I was very worried about the uneven wear and took it to the dealers who told me it was fine. At 12000 miles I took it back to another Mazda dealer. They charged me £60 for tracking and told me all 4 tyres we NOT legal, hence all 4 tyres had to be replaced At another £550. Il lease this vehicle and will be returning it back to Mazda as soon as I can get out the lease. regards Kev.
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/12/2007 5:52:10 PM
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Pelliebeer
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Dave,
Oh yes they do have logged case of front tyre wear - MINE, and have just paid out towards two sets of tyres. Nicole seems to be the woman who knows all at MMUK about this, get the dealer to contact her.
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< Message edited by Pelliebeer -- 3/12/2007 5:54:36 PM >
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/13/2007 6:24:36 AM
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SB5
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Just had dealer ring, update - MMUK have recognised the rear tyres problem and issued a bulllitin to dealers last week.
Dealer has to take tread measurements and work out % wear and then negotiate this with customer.
The rear tyres on pics have achieved 80% refund by MMUK and the dealer ( Donalds Peterborough) is throwing in a further 20% for rear tyres + free tracking and alignment - to set at 2mm toe in.
But MMUK are not recognising front wear at all and so having to pay for this myself - an issue to take up with MMUK as this is a bill for £229.00 which I did not expect for atleast 30k miles - my other car is a Fabia and it has done 46k on a set of orginal tyres - Michelins.
Any clues about this on how to approach MMUK wold be well recieved.
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/13/2007 5:21:51 PM
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AIMWO4
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What I can't understand is how often do the tyres get rotated? Surely more than every 12k miles. Wouldn't it be plausible to have similar wear issues on front as on rear?
I had a Saab 9-5 wagon that had rear wear issue (along with many others). We drove no more than 5K miles between rotations. It didn't matter what brand of tyre I had.
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/13/2007 6:43:55 PM
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Pelliebeer
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This is completely confusing, as I received a cheque yesterday paying out for 4 tyres, all having been on the front!!!
why are mmuk paying percentage and some dealers making up the difference?
why are some people getting everything paid, some a percentage and some nothing??????
come on mazda, start singing a consistant song and stop making it up as you go along!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/13/2007 7:54:12 PM
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Dads_Taxi
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It seems I am in good company. I have a Mazda 5 2.0D Sport, new in September '06, with virtually worn-through inside edges on my FRONT tyres.
I noticed this about 6 weeks ago, at approx 8500 miles, and immediately contacted my dealer, Lythgoe in Bolton. They are like a stuck record, repeatedly telling me that wheel alignment problems are NOT covered by warranty. I have agreed to pay the 40 quid to have the alignment adjusted, but the problem they have is that they have no data on the actual specifications for wheel alignment on the Mazda 5 Sport, so don't know what angle to set the wheels to. I've had two wasted journeys to Bolton at 40 miles per round trip, on one occassion sitting around for two hours whilst the technicians searched in vain for the correct specs for the car. Consequently I've been driving around causing more damage to the tyres whilst corresponding with Mazda UK who tell me that "wheel alignment problems are NOT covered by warranty" !!
This really is driving me mad, and is not at all what I expected from Mazda.
Mazda UK's customer sevices department have now assured me that by my next appointment in Bolton, the necessary data will be available and the wheels will be adjusted correctly. Ha! having read this forum I'm not so sure they know what exactly the correct settings are.
I will let you all know how my case progresses. Has anyone out there tried contacting a newspaper motoring correspondant regarding this?
Whilst I'm having a rant, I'll also mention the alarming creaks and groans from the suspension in very cold weather (below about 2C).
The stereo's blooming fantastic though!!!!
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/14/2007 3:02:50 PM
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Fonsa
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Just had my Mazda 5 L/E Furano (same as 2.0 Sport c/w full body kit), back from dealer service. what a surprise..! Rear tyres worn on inside edge, fronts better, but still appear to have premature wear after 13,7000 mls. Guy who returned car said garage wanted to speak to me, so called them & spoke to guy in service dept who advised that i need to speak to someone else & that the would get him to call back before close of play today. No call came..! Decoded to Google "Mazda 5 tyre wear", & hear I am..! Garage have advised that I (My company) would have to pay a percentage of the cost of replacing rear tyres & that front also need replacing, at cost. Also said that getting hold of these is difficult but hope to get some from Newport (Wales). Company car so wont personally be out of pocket but all the same not good. Upside - don't have the suspension or wind noise troubles if heard about!
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/16/2007 5:04:16 PM
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cwalker
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Just bought a new Furano last week, and then read all this - oh dear. Dealer seemed to be pushing it big style as I wanted the TS2. He gave me a good deal so I thought why not. When I test drove the sport diesel (sales guys own car) it pulled like mad on the motorway and I was actually tired after 30 minutes fighting it. I mentioned it to him and he of course denied all knowledge, but I just figured he needed his tracking sorting. I must admit I am not finding the thought of forking out 500 quid for tyres every year particularly appealing. My 3-Series tyres cost 300 quid and last 50K. We've had no suspension noises so far and it seems fairly quiet compared to some of your experiences. It does drive really well and no speed bump noises, but is this something that's likely to develop over the first few thousand miles?
The plastic retainer for the rear middle seat belt has fallen out though. The salesmans' incredulous reaction made me laugh, as I'd read this is pretty much a standard event.
Short question is, have I made a big mistake? It has everything we need, but I don't like the idea of my wife and kids testing just how good the curtain airbags are after a motorway blowout.
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/17/2007 5:31:27 AM
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CharlottenEddiesdad
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Strikes me that there is definitely a different quality of service depending upon which dealer you are dealing with. However, this said if one dealer can manage to get Mazda UK to fund the repairs etc, and replace worn tyres. Front and rear.....
All dealers should be able to do so.
As I said to the Dealer Principle at my dealers, they have a duty of care to ensure that the product THEY are selling is fit for purpose. obviously worn tyres apart from being illegal are downright dangerous!
Fortunately he agreed......
MMUK and the delightful Nicole..... They need to go further than a bulletin. They need to issue a full recall and get the problem sorted once and for all.
My advice to all of you is to stick by your rights and demand the dealer foots all costs and then it is up to them to negociate with MMUK to cover their loss, rather than a humble customer trying to do the same.
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RE: Tyre wear on UK Mazda 5 - 3/18/2007 10:26:23 PM
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DouglasH
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I was in my dealers the other day and noticed a few new Mazda 5's waiting to be collected or sold, I had a look at the tyres fitted and noticed 2 cars had 'Toyo Tranpath J4' tyres fitted all round, the other one car had 'Goodyear Eagle NCT5' tyres fitted all round. I assume they have finally decided to ditch the Dunlops.
I would advise anyone with alignment issues to go to an independant garage with state of the art equipment, to have it checked properly and by that I don't mean Kwik-Fit type High Street tyre & exhaust fitting places, as I said before since 2003 Mazda cars are leaving the factory with horrendous alignment settings and the dealers don't seem to be able to put it right, only last week I witnessed one of our Mx-5 Members have to put his car off the road after the dealer struggled for two days trying to set up the alignment, they claimed to have the best equipment yet he was scared stiff driving his car home because of the strange steering and pull, which wasn't there before.
I have a friend in England (I live in Scotland) who used to work for Mazda he managed to get me the following settings for the Mazda 5, I don't know how accurate they will be but perhaps you could ask your independant garage to look at them......
Mazda 5 geometry settings
Total toe-in (Front & Rear)
2 +/- 4mm {L8,LF & MZR-CD}
Front
Maximum Steering Angle {L8,LF & MZR-CD}
Inner 40*05' +/- 3*
Outer 33*07' +/- 3*
Castor {L8,LF}
3*14' +/- 1*
Camber {L8,LF}
-0*42' +/- 1*
SAI {L8,LF}
13*59'
Castor {MZR-CD}
3*12' +/- 1*
Camber {MZR-CD}
-0*44' +/- 1*
SAI
14*04'
Rear
Camber {L8,LF & MZR-CD}
-1*29' +/- 1*
Thrust angle {L8,LF & MZR-CD}
0* +/- 48'
(* indicates degree)
{MZR-CD - Diesel Engine}
{L8,LF - 1800 & 2000 petrol engine}
< Message edited by DouglasH -- 3/18/2007 10:28:06 PM >
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