Rear Shock Absorbers
#12
These are them then? http://www.kyb-europe.com/catalogue.asp
we would have:-Part 551105 It seems to be same for petrol and diesel 2litre.
Now that the rear suspension is replaced, for the most part, I now notice more a knocking from the front. I think it's the 'butterfly' bushes on the front swing arm (MacPherson Strut). I will ask my new and better mazda Dealer 30 miles away to look and take for a test drive to see what they think. They are so good that on Monday I went in for them to look at the corrosion on all 4 wheels for replacement under warranty, they drove it into their workshop, took photo's, gave my car back and within 3 hours I had a call back off them saying they had gotten authorisation from Mazda UK and had ordered the 4 wheels and I can have them replaced when I arrange a time. They get the wheels today (Friday). Bear in mind I've been trying to get my original local Mazda to do this since last year and they come up with all sorts of excuses even after 2 sessions of taking pictures.
UPDATE: I had all 4 wheels replaced and I got 2 new Contisport3 to replace the front which had worn very well and even, I have 38PSI, with still over 2mm all round and no inner edge wear at all. I'm off to europe in a few weeks and that was the reason for the early replacement. So that was a little over 14000 with spare mileage left in the order of a few thousand miles I would guess. Also identified that the front near side (UK) lower arm has it's rear bush (what I've been calling butterfly bush) which is oil filled. This was causing a knock you could feel directly under your front passenger feet. Mine too but not so bad, so only the near side to be done first.
we would have:-Part 551105 It seems to be same for petrol and diesel 2litre.
Now that the rear suspension is replaced, for the most part, I now notice more a knocking from the front. I think it's the 'butterfly' bushes on the front swing arm (MacPherson Strut). I will ask my new and better mazda Dealer 30 miles away to look and take for a test drive to see what they think. They are so good that on Monday I went in for them to look at the corrosion on all 4 wheels for replacement under warranty, they drove it into their workshop, took photo's, gave my car back and within 3 hours I had a call back off them saying they had gotten authorisation from Mazda UK and had ordered the 4 wheels and I can have them replaced when I arrange a time. They get the wheels today (Friday). Bear in mind I've been trying to get my original local Mazda to do this since last year and they come up with all sorts of excuses even after 2 sessions of taking pictures.
UPDATE: I had all 4 wheels replaced and I got 2 new Contisport3 to replace the front which had worn very well and even, I have 38PSI, with still over 2mm all round and no inner edge wear at all. I'm off to europe in a few weeks and that was the reason for the early replacement. So that was a little over 14000 with spare mileage left in the order of a few thousand miles I would guess. Also identified that the front near side (UK) lower arm has it's rear bush (what I've been calling butterfly bush) which is oil filled. This was causing a knock you could feel directly under your front passenger feet. Mine too but not so bad, so only the near side to be done first.
Last edited by GSX600FMAN; 06-06-2010 at 03:44 AM. Reason: update
#13
Finally got my new shocks
After 26 days off the road my new rear shock absorbers arrived and were fitted last Friday. The dealer could find no wear in any of the suspension bushes. New rear tyres have been fitted at the same time. After lengthy discussions with the dealership owner it is still not clear what caused the tyres to wear so rapidly. Topics covered included:-
Camber - not adjustable,
Width of tyres - wider modern tyres are more liable to wear than the narrower old type
Flexibilty - designers trying to cover for all conditions ranging from empty car to fully loaded with seven people
Dunlop Tyre issues - possibility of original Dunlop tyres not being the best
Alignment - concluded that best setting is probably going to be at the maximum tolerence of toe in rather than in the middle. Car will be set to this in the near future. ( I think someone else posted about doing this in the "Tyre thread".)
Failure of shock absorbers - should not cause tyre failure.
Apart from an acknowledgement I am still waiting for an answer from Mazda UK to my letter of complaint.
2008 Mazda 5 2.0D Sport
Camber - not adjustable,
Width of tyres - wider modern tyres are more liable to wear than the narrower old type
Flexibilty - designers trying to cover for all conditions ranging from empty car to fully loaded with seven people
Dunlop Tyre issues - possibility of original Dunlop tyres not being the best
Alignment - concluded that best setting is probably going to be at the maximum tolerence of toe in rather than in the middle. Car will be set to this in the near future. ( I think someone else posted about doing this in the "Tyre thread".)
Failure of shock absorbers - should not cause tyre failure.
Apart from an acknowledgement I am still waiting for an answer from Mazda UK to my letter of complaint.
2008 Mazda 5 2.0D Sport
#14
LOL, width of tyres! Yes wider tyres are prone to wearing in the way these do, IF they are fitted to a vehicle that is not designed for them.
ask any low budget boy race with an escort. They used to suffer the same wear when the big wheel and suspension mod was just slapped on, and not set up properly at an good alignment shop.
I am suspecting the Dunlops are not helping though, as most of us seem to be finding out.
Also why do so many people still get tyres fitted by their dealer?
I use Mytres.co uk, or the local watlings, much more convenient and keener prices.
ask any low budget boy race with an escort. They used to suffer the same wear when the big wheel and suspension mod was just slapped on, and not set up properly at an good alignment shop.
I am suspecting the Dunlops are not helping though, as most of us seem to be finding out.
Also why do so many people still get tyres fitted by their dealer?
I use Mytres.co uk, or the local watlings, much more convenient and keener prices.
#17
Mazda5 rear shock absorbers
Mazda5 Sport - went in for first service 10,000 miles and rear shock absorber leaking. About a 3 week delay in getting the part which was fitted but the mounting bolts sheared about one week later. Still waiting for the part for the other side to come into stock to be replaced - not feeling very confident about the car.
Mazda main dealer very unhelpful, Mazda assist (via RAC) excellent.
Mazda main dealer very unhelpful, Mazda assist (via RAC) excellent.
#19
suspension should be changed as a pair. I would request a drivers side.
ask them if they would change one brake disc!
It is a saftey imbalance having a used part worn out shock with a new on the other side. They will try and fob you off, but if it was out of warranty they wouldn't fit one only, due to safety.
It quite simply isn't something any mechanic would do with their own car
ask them if they would change one brake disc!
It is a saftey imbalance having a used part worn out shock with a new on the other side. They will try and fob you off, but if it was out of warranty they wouldn't fit one only, due to safety.
It quite simply isn't something any mechanic would do with their own car
#20
same problem as yours
I*m from Italy and i own a Mazda 5. my first pair of rear shock abssorbers was changed at 35000 km and now, at 65000 km (and another year and a half of warranty), it succeded again same shock abssorber was licking oil (the right abssorber). first time they did it in warranty but now they say that the liccking is doed to normal usure and so it cannot be change under warranty. does any of you knows a number an european level that i can call to say my problems, or if there is any authority that makes controls to prove that is a problem of the car and not of the driver, thats why the manufacturer must do it and not the driver?