I'm looking to buy a 2004 Mazda RX8 and having a hard time deciding between Tiptronic or a Manual transmission. I'm just curious to which would be faster for a 0-60mph and 1/4 mile. There is a lot of forums which go back and forth on which is faster, some say the tiptronic is a faster shift while others say it isn't and that it is delayed so I'm not sure if it varies from car to car or what. Please help me :P
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If you are looking to drag the car, a modified automatic is your best choice. But in day-to-day, or track driving, I would choose the manual, hands down!
The tip-tronic is still nothing but an automatic trans (slush-box, dog-o-matic.Take your pick) w/a shifter designed to be manually shifted. It's the shifter that"s different, not the transmission.
It does not compensate fordownshifts (match speeds/blip the throttle) so it is very slow to downshift, nor is it particularly quick at up-shifting in manual mode either. It"s more gimmick than new technology.
Until Mazda decides to get off it"s *** and design/offer a 6-7 speed DSG, I would stay with the manual all the way... especiallyin a Sports car DD.
+1 to everything Richard just said. Unless I move into the middle of a city, I'll always be choosing a manual. The only exceptions are some of the new ATX's used in high end cars..... those can absolutely fantastic. The computer's in those can shift in a fraction of a second (way faster than any manual shift) and can be a dream to drive. The only good ATX I've driven was in a 335i which was awesome. Still being how much TQ that car had I'd have preferred a manual just to avoid the lurch when you first hit the gas. Hmmm, now that I think about it the manual version of that car is a SMT without a clutch pedal so perhaps that wouldn't help. lol
the main thing is that the tranny has to slip in some way to keep the engine from dying. that is what makes a manual better than an auto or manumatic/tiptronic. you control the tranny slipping by clutching, so it doesn't waste any of the energy on having to turn a torque converter to make the tires spin. anything without a clutch is wasting energy on a heavy torque converter.