Bridgestone Turanza's DONE @ 35Km's
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Bridgestone Turanza's DONE @ 35Km's
easyeves
8/1/2007 12:39:43 PM
I've had my AWD GT CX-7 for about a year now and it's ready for new tires. The Turanza's have 2/32nds left on ALL 4 tires. There is NO way this is an alignment problem. I haven't heard to many good things about the Goodyear RSA's either. Tires rotated every 6000Km and tire pressure checked every week. Possibly a manufacturing defect??
Anyone else having tire wear issues?
Alpha Wolf
8/1/2007 3:52:33 PM
Well tire mileage varies.
With vehicle weight
With tire pressures used.
With amount of hard braking
With amount of hard cornering
With alignment.
So how many miles does your car have? Every 6,000KM? How many times have you done this?
This is a heavy 3,600 lbs car so the tires will not last like the same tires on a Geo Metro.
Since it is fun to drive, owners tend to push their cars when driving resulting in more hard stops and more lateral G's in the turns.
Allowing your tire pressure to run low will reduce tread life.
Oh and welcome
easyeves
8/2/2007 2:30:15 PM
Well, let's do the math.......
35000/1.6 = 21,875 miles
I am rotating my tires every oil change which is 6,000Km or 3,750 miles. The wear on the tires is uniform which opts out an alignment problem. I have NO channels left on the tire for the water to escape resulting in major hydroplaning. Tire pressure would not have gone unnoticed in order for that kind of wear to occur.
I'm having the Bridgestone warranty guy take a look at them tonight.
cx7Zoooooom
8/2/2007 3:30:09 PM
not likely its a defect if 4 tires all show the same even wear. what are the odds? you're just going to have to face it, a heavy vehicle that encourages agressive driving doesn't make for long wearing tires. I know it can be a shock to the system, I had an '02 mercedes that i averaged 20K miles per set of tires for 3 years. since i drove about 30K miles a year, that meant new tires every 10 months or so. I tried a few different brands, but they all wore out within a couple thousand miles of each other. One of those unforseen expenses... $200/tire X 4 sucks.
Road conditions can really eat up tires, if you drive on a lot of chip-sealed roads or that damned grooved pavement, it's like sandpaper. Also, my mercedes dealer mentioned once that AWD vehicles eat up tires a little faster. not sure if that's true.
Not sure where you got your info on RSA's but i just traded in an '05 Maxima with them and i got 40K miles out of them. probably 60% highway. Can't speak to snow and ice conditions, but wet or dry they were nice tires. They have a lower treadwear rating than the Bridgestones, so probably not a good choice for you.
altaski
8/3/2007 3:55:55 PM
Mine are about 5/8's worn at 21,000mi
marcscx7
8/3/2007 4:30:28 PM
My CX7 has 33k miles and the OEM tires literly shreaded the tread off @ 32k miles. The steel belts are showing on the fronts. The tires were rotated @ every ~7000 miles and rears are about to do the same as fronts. I was able to locate 4-5 235/60HR18 tires to replace them ($175-$245). None had a milage warranty. After some additional research I have changed to 255/55/HR18 Perrrelli STR ($165) with 65k warranty. The tire is less than .1 inch different in size. I would have like to try the Dueller H/L Alenza (255/55HR18 - EXACT SAME SIZE) but were $205 per tire and same warranty. The allignment was dead on. I hope to hit the 70k mark with these tires.
easyeves
8/8/2007 11:53:28 AM
Living in Northern Alberta, Canada, I don't have the luxury of keeping bald tires on my vehicle until the steel wires show. Considering we'll see snow as early as October, I'd like to get those killers off there now.
I'm looking at a set of Nokian WR SUV All-weather. The sore spot is that it'll cost me $1300 for 4. But I hear nothing but good things about Nokian. Any comments?
Still waiting to hear from the Warranty guys at Bridgestone Corp. I'm told by a Bridgestone Field Eng. that they are conducting an investigation into those Turanza'a as we speak for the same reason. Excessive tire wear. I'm not thinking it's a defect anymore........now I'm leaning towards the fact that Bridgestone makes a SHIT tire at that size.
marcscx7
8/10/2007 9:48:58 PM
I have to agree SHIT tires. The funny thing was that when I purchased the tires, another CX7 came in the next day same issue. I have not heard much about the Nokian tires. I do recall reading posts some where that the tires were not as good as expected.
Living in NY I also may see snow in October but luckly it will not be much nor will it stay. Any way you stack the tires up they will be costly - that is why I changed the tire to a more common size - more choices and less cost.
Good luck with selecting a tire - like you I need a year round tire (unitl I purchase additional rims)
jcdishes
8/11/2007 2:50:09 PM
My mazda has 13000 miles and 2 of my tires are worn to slicks I rotated them twice already I will be calling the dealer on Monday to look at them they should still be under warranty.
easyeves
8/13/2007 6:45:43 AM
This is the battle I've been fighting with Corp. Bridgestone. Neither Mazda OR Bridgestone carries any warranty for OEM tires. Basically, they're screwing us. I've spoken with both companies and continue to get the run-around while they point the finger at each other. You would think that when you spend $40K on a new vehicle it will come with tires that will last longer than a year. Very frustrating!
I've been offered, by Bridgestone, 50% off the price of new tires. I let them know that I will NEVER drop another penny on any Bridgstone product and I'll be sure none of my customers or clients do either.
cleveken
4/7/2008 1:56:52 PM
Another one with Bridgestones and worn smooth tires at 22k - And Bridgestone has flatly refused any help with replacement - now waiting to see what Mazda has to say - Dealer has confirmed with customer service that the tires have been rotated faithfully every 5K proper inflation etc. - just poor cheap tires. Supposedly the Goodyear Eagles do better. My last SUV ( a real SUV not a "crossover") had over 60k miles on the original tires and they still looked new - these are just not the right choice for this car period.
cleveken
4/19/2008 3:35:19 PM
UPDATE
Mazda did come through and helped with replacements, they were very fair and the with the new tires the car is even more fun to drive !
Alpha Wolf
4/22/2008 5:06:37 PM
30,000 miles on a 3800 lbs car is really not bad mileage.
Now if you drive aggressively or have very abrasive roads this will go down.
Your car, so drive it as fast you can afford to.
cleveken
5/5/2008 8:55:19 AM
I have to disagree with 30k miles being "not bad mileage" just because the car is heavy. If the tires were properly matched to the vehicle, which Mazda clearly failed to do, those tires should be lasting well beyond the 50k mark with proper maintenance. I ran 66k miles on my 4200lb. Escape and my Continental Conti's had nearly 50% of the tread life remaining.
virgin1
5/5/2008 10:48:17 AM
For what it's worth, I got less than 20k on my RS-A's and they were mostly painful miles too. And neither GY nor Mazda was willing to take any responsibilities for them... except to want to sell me 4 new ones @ $293 ea. before mounting and balancing.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again here and now: After three cars, three different sets of GY's and three bad experiences w/those GY tires, their nationwide (so-called) Customer Service, and their Gemini stores, it's gonna be a long, LONG time before they get any of my business again.
It's not usually the brand of the tire, or the weight of the car, but the compound and wear factor for the tire. Most are a guideline for how a tire will wear on any vehicle driven "normally," but it should only be used as a guide.
If you were required to buy your new tires from the dealer, then my guess is that the deal they gave you wasn't very good. If you got the GY's, I found them to be very unpredictable in wet weather, and have zero traction in light snow, as well as riding badly and being somewhat noisy.
Just my .02.
Mookie1952
5/6/2008 9:15:07 AM
Just curious as to who at Mazda did you contact? My Bridgestones are wearing out at 10,000 miles and I contact 2 different customer service rep's at Mazda and they stated there was nothing they could do just to refer me to Bridgestone....
virgin1
5/6/2008 11:47:26 AM
Yup, that's the same story I got too. "Mazda is not responsible for tires because they are sourced and warranted by the manufacturer." That's more or less what I got.
And Good Year had the nerve to tell me that they were already worn out!!!
I said, No shit Sherlock!! Why do you think I'm here w/<20k on the clock?
Dumb asses. For better or worse they lost a customer for the rest of my life. Even if I buy a new car and it comes w/GY's on it as the 3 did, I will trade in/up immediately. No questions asked. I wished now that I had done that then.
Mookie1952
5/6/2008 1:09:58 PM
This is something that will make this my first and last Mazda and I fired off an e-mail back to Mazda on this subject. I realize that they do not give a crap but I let them know that I had 2 Subaru's prior to this and no problems. So far, my cx7 and Mazda have been a big headache. Oh well, live and learn....
MikeHTally
7/13/2008 6:33:03 PM
I had a Toyota Cressida with Turanzas they didn''t last very long, but the car was a complete hoot to drive with those. Back then, Turanzas had a very low treadwear rating. Perhaps the new ones are better, but they still are too soft to provide long treadwear. Look into Pirelli P-Zeros I''ll probably put those on my Speed 3 when the time comes.
cleveken
7/28/2008 1:35:41 PM
I started with my dealer, who contacted Bridgestone for me. He then put me in touch with Mazda, provided all of the service history on the vehicle etc. It did help that no one else has ever serviced the vehicle, and he had all of the records to show that I had veen taking care of everything. Been dealing with this dealer for over 20 years and that helps too.
hankwillslc
9/5/2008 10:46:47 AM
The Bridgestone Turanza EL42 tires are JUNK!!! The Tire Rack ratings on the tire are near the bottom - lowest I have seen of any tire and the comments by owners border on becoming violent in discust.
Mazda did us no favors, but these same tires are OEM on many other cars.
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